Avfc96 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 So because you value a player higher than another that means they are better? Okay............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 We'll see who exactly comes in for Hart when Man City buy a new GK in January... if the scouts are as good as vandaq then surely they will come in for guzan I'm not sure what Vandaq has said that has offended you so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetipton86 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 How can you say that its like me reacting back with tonev 2 mill ronaldo 80 mill thats also logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetipton86 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 So because you value a player higher than another that means they are better? Okay............ obviously... I can see your point but if someones valued more they are clearer better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 An no it doesnt matter but it proves the point im making is correct unless you have more knowledge than the clubs who would come in for hart over guzan or who would offer more money. Proves im right u fukin dick I've read that three times and it still doesn't make sense. I think you are trying to say that Joe Hart is worth more in the transfer market... and therefore he must be better? yes thats the point im making... The same reason a bentleys worth more than a kia in price Or Andy Carroll was worth five times as much as Benteke? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetipton86 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 An no it doesnt matter but it proves the point im making is correct unless you have more knowledge than the clubs who would come in for hart over guzan or who would offer more money. Proves im right u fukin dick I've read that three times and it still doesn't make sense. I think you are trying to say that Joe Hart is worth more in the transfer market... and therefore he must be better? yes thats the point im making... The same reason a bentleys worth more than a kia in price Or Andy Carroll was worth five times as much as Benteke? at the time he was what had he done scored a few in the belgian league? Obviously not now but back then he was. You could go on all day but your missing my point, im saying if these 2 went on market now , hart would go for more, theres a gk playing somewere that will be worth twice the amount of hart in 5 years but as yet been found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetipton86 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Or did u think when liverpool signed carrol " they should of brought that benteke lad from genk they could of got him for £7mil" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 That money often is an indicater of a player`s ability`s are true too some degree, but it`s flawed since it depends on which team who sells and buys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetipton86 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 That money often is an indicater of a player`s ability`s are true too some degree, but it`s flawed since it depends on which team who sells and buys. correct, but all im saying is hart would get a bigger offer, regardless of what club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share Posted November 15, 2013 Where would you place Guzan then in the last then Joe? He's comfortably top 10 for me given he's one of the few prem keepers who can come off his line and 9/10 claim a cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetipton86 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Yes top 10 for sure, needs to work in his distribution to compete with lloris, de gea and hart, something your taught from an early age as a gk is when u get it dont give it straight back... Im sure newcastle fans would say krul is 1 of the best gks in league but doubt villa fams would agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 20, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 20, 2013 To address some points Lloris is the best keeper in the world. It pains me to say that about a Spurs player (but I've held this view since he was at Lyon) I actually wouldn't swap Guzan for Hart. Mignolet is overrated, as is Begovic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetipton86 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Hers some other points lloris aint better than manuel neur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 20, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 20, 2013 I think he is. Although Neuer is excellent so i can understand why you'd think that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) Boruc has been fantastic for Southampton since he came in last season IMO. Edited November 20, 2013 by StanBalaban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetipton86 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I prefer lloris' as a gk, he can play football which i think is vital in a gk now, his passing and the way he sweeps are second to none Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetipton86 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Guzan could learn so much from these keepers, i dont know for certain but i would imagine that gk training in the us wouldnt focus so much on passing as a gk, but i am sure they were a lot further behind in coaching "soccer" when brad Was coming through as a young keeper.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepane Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 According to Opta, Brad Guzan has made the most successful high claims of any goalkeeper in Europe's top 5 leagues this season, with 37. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetipton86 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 What are his stats for goal kicks or pass backs kicked into touch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetipton86 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Im not denying brad is great at claiming crosses at all im on about the way he hesitates with through balls... Hes a fantastic keeper but as iv stated before he cant pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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