villa4europe Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, MaVilla said: How can psg actually afford Messi and all the other talent they have?? Serious question, how does FFP not do them over?! They won't declare messi for another year, by which time they'll no doubt have increased their revenue to balance it, or sell some players next year and play with the money, most likely they'll find some way of tying the club in the world cup and getting some of that Qatar money, they have visit Qatar as a partner for example, I'm sure they can add another £20m to the deal next year as a WC boost or some such shit, or have messi do some visit Qatar WC events that he gets paid bonuses for that of course have nothing to do with the club A quick read of their official partners list makes for depressing reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, MaVilla said: How can psg actually afford Messi and all the other talent they have?? Serious question, how does FFP not do them over?! FFP does not work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Club owners should be allowed to pump as much money in as they like as long as it’s not a club debt, must be a gift. At least then it’s all transparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Genie said: Club owners should be allowed to pump as much money in as they like as long as it’s not a club debt, must be a gift. At least then it’s all transparent. Yeah at least then there's no glass ceiling. Basically it would mean the best teams are the ones with the richest owners. Kind of like now, except there won't be any exceptions such as our owners among others. Still a very shit situation mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 3 hours ago, sharkyvilla said: I genuinely don't get why people on here hate Messi so much. Such a weird corner of the internet this place sometimes. Personally, I really don’t. Best footballer of my lifetime and an absolute genius on the pitch. Probably not the easiest of personalities, to be rather polite I suppose, but I hold him in very high regard as an artist and athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: Yeah at least then there's no glass ceiling. Basically it would mean the best teams are the ones with the richest owners. Kind of like now, except there won't be any exceptions such as our owners among others. Still a very shit situation mind. It’s better than this current shady situation of people sneaking money in, and debts out. Just throw it open, as long as the club is debt free then the owners can overspend versus their income. Thats better than now because clubs are allowed to generated losses. Like us under Tony X, it can all blow up and risk bankruptcy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Genie said: Club owners should be allowed to pump as much money in as they like as long as it’s not a club debt, must be a gift. At least then it’s all transparent. 3 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Yeah at least then there's no glass ceiling. Basically it would mean the best teams are the ones with the richest owners. Kind of like now, except there won't be any exceptions such as our owners among others. Still a very shit situation mind. Totally agree. If an owner is willing to pump 500m actual cash (for example), in to a club, I don't see why that's an issue. Ad long as it isn't debt, and it is hard cash, it should he allowed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 minute ago, MaVilla said: Totally agree. If an owner is willing to pump 500m actual cash (for example), in to a club, I don't see why that's an issue. Ad long as it isn't debt, and it is hard cash, it should he allowed. I was thinking that these massive sponsorship deals are largely just doing the same thing aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: I was thinking that these massive sponsorship deals are largely just doing the same thing aren't they? Yes You can bypass FFP by having your owners other company sponsor the club but you can't have your owner directly put his own money in to the club Why is that? Because if the owners other company sponsors the club at an inflated rate then th e market value becomes inflated and the likes of man utd benefit from it The value of PSGs official airline partnership with Qatar Airways impacts utds deal with aeroflot Everything about FFP to me goes back to man utd and how it helps them as the world's biggest club, all of it just makes them bigger Then look at who UEFAs mouth piece was when all this started up... David Gill... Former chief executive of man utd... The whole thing is a con Edited August 10, 2021 by villa4europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Is allowing an owner put in a much money as they want, like having an Olympics with no drug testing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 32 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: I was thinking that these massive sponsorship deals are largely just doing the same thing aren't they? That’s the point, it’s shady. Bring it out into the open and allow owners to spend what they like (as long as no debt). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: Is allowing an owner put in a much money as they want, like having an Olympics with no drug testing? No. FFP is more like an Olympics without drug testing, everybody is cheating to varying degrees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Well I will be rooting for them. Such a plucky little club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 3 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: Yep. I have a waxy, pea sized, heart and never believe anything a footballer says again. He could have played for free if he really wanted to. No he couldn't. He, and they, would be breaking Spanish law. And I'm guessing given his previous issues with the Ministerio Fiscal he'd probably prefer to avoid that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 minute ago, ml1dch said: No he couldn't. He, and they, would be breaking Spanish law. And I'm guessing given his previous issues with the Ministerio Fiscal he'd probably prefer to avoid that. Interesting point on the authority’s, the rules have cost them tens of millions in tax revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 5 hours ago, villa4europe said: our chairman doesnt sit on the UEFA executive committee... Ah of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Apparently Messi will wear number 30 at PSG (the number he wore when he made his debut at Barcelona). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Genie said: Apparently Messi will wear number 30 at PSG (the number he wore when he made his debut at Barcelona). Thought was for how much money he will earn this year, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Thought was for how much money he will earn this year, He’d be in trouble if it was all revenue streams as the numbers only go up to 99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Zatman said: Thought was for how much money he will earn this year, Doing a Nicklas Bendtner when he played in 52 for Arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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