TRO Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) I think its one of the most interesting positions on a football field. I think it is also one of the most misunderstood and unappreciated. They win the ball ,so by definition START the attack, they rarely catch the eye of the spectators but are valued immensely by their peers. it amazes me, how many times play is reversed by these players sorties are created goals are scored but the seem to go under the radar. In the days of the great Liverpool side they played with not one but 2 Jimmy case and Graham Souness ( granted Souness could scheme in addition) If the Defence is fortunate enough to play a high line these guys are really effective by winning the ball high up the field and easily creating most of the attacks. Its quite paradoxical at times just how much effect they can have on the offensive side of the game, despite them being classed as Defensive. Claude Makele was on of the more famous types, but we had a good one in Des Bremner. I can clearly remember going into the Aston Social club after the games and moaning about Des not being of suitable class in terms of skill with the rest of the team, I was clearly naïve and missing the point, I just simply didn't understand the role, so I didn't value his work.... sorry Des. These guys for me are truly massively important for the team. Edited October 31, 2013 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I wouldn't say they don't catch the eye. Good DMs are very noticeable during games. Makelele being a good example of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa_shere Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 One of the sports channels covered this the other day when talking about the role Falmini is playing in the Arsenal midfield. For all their talent he is one of the biggest driving facotrs this season. A solid DM is worth their weight in gold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Yes agree This was the position i hoped would have been our first priority this summer. We also need a playmaker and an effective wingplayer for this system to work, but a DCM/Ballwinner would improve us no end 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 The problem with our midfield is we do not have a Midfielder that can actually tackle. The only one capable of actually tackling is Sylla and we don't play him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) KEA is one of the highest tacklers in the league I believe. He plays as our most advanced midfielder though so it would be preferable if it were our DM doing most of the tackling. Edited October 31, 2013 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 We've got too many defensive midfielders. That's one of our many problems down the Villa. Give us some flair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 KEA is one of the highest tacklers in the league I believe. He plays as our most advanced midfielder though so it would be preferable if it were our DM doing most of the tackling. Forget your stats for a minute as I know you do love them. I mean someone who can actually do a slide tackle, take the man and the ball to add a bit of presence in our midfield. I was at Reading away last season and Sylla's first contribution was to actually slide one of their midfielders, win the ball and pass it on. I have never seen KEA do that, he nicks the ball from players but doesn't really add a presence for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 No that is a fair point and as I said, he is too high up the pitch anyway. I would really like to see Sylla tried in the anchor role as I think it would be beneficial to the way we play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 31, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2013 The tackling stat is really meaningless. Great defensive midfielder read play and intercept balls just as easily as they can slide tackle. I think Sylla, KEA and Westwood are all defensive minded players,it's just that they're none of them are very good really and it shows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 The tackling stat is really meaningless. Great defensive midfielder read play and intercept balls just as easily as they can slide tackle. I think Sylla, KEA and Westwood are all defensive minded players,it's just that they're none of them are very good really and it shows. Ain't that the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 The tackling stat is really meaningless. Great defensive midfielder read play and intercept balls just as easily as they can slide tackle. I think Sylla, KEA and Westwood are all defensive minded players,it's just that they're none of them are very good really and it shows. Don't know how you can put Sylla into that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 The tackling stat is really meaningless. Great defensive midfielder read play and intercept balls just as easily as they can slide tackle. I think Sylla, KEA and Westwood are all defensive minded players,it's just that they're none of them are very good really and it shows. Don't know how you can put Sylla into that category. Was about to say the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Would you class Des Bremner as a defensive midfield player though because in those days we played 4-4-2 and he was playing wide right. He's more of a modern day wide player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 defensive midfield destroyers have seem to come into vogue in last few seasons, but the best defensive midfielders in the world dont do any of that. Pirlo, Xabi Alonso or Busquets are not going to snap into tackles and rather distribute the ball from defence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 defensive midfield destroyers have seem to come into vogue in last few seasons, but the best defensive midfielders in the world dont do any of that. Pirlo, Xabi Alonso or Busquets are not going to snap into tackles and rather distribute the ball from defence Busquets does, but I get your point re the other two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) We already have a DM at the club Whenever he plays we always seem to win or play well but he can never get in the team Edited October 31, 2013 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Sylla, Sylla, Sylla... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Sylla, Sylla, Sylla... FREE YACOUBA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) We already have a DM at the club Whenever he plays we always seem to win or play well but he can never get in the team Shame Lambert never actually plays him in the DM position though... Free Yacouba! Edited November 1, 2013 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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