tonyh29 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) On 28/01/2018 at 17:31, Xela said: What cars have we always hankered after but never owned When I was 11 or 12 it was the Lancia that was the cool car as it kept winning the Off road race thingy I watched on World of Sport ... we had a dealer near us in Weybridge so used to cycle there and go in and get car brochures from a poor harassed sales man who spent his day dealing with 12 year old kids Needless to say I don't want one of them any more ... now I want one of these , just for celebration mode .. Edited February 16, 2018 by tonyh29 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 16, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: Thoughts and prayers It sometimes struggles to go into first and has a surprisingly poor turning circle, and every few months the scuttle gets clogged meaning you turn on the heater and the windscreen instantly fogs up, but otherwise it does the job and costs bugger all so I guess I can't complain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 My car really is on its last legs, problem I have is that my work car park has gone from lawless to vigilante so I’m slightly nervous about parking anything worth more than £500 in it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 58 minutes ago, Genie said: My car really is on its last legs, problem I have is that my work car park has gone from lawless to vigilante so I’m slightly nervous about parking anything worth more than £500 in it... Castle Brom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Xela said: Castle Brom? Nope, Gaydon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_75 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Had a 2008 135i coupe for about 8 months now, lovely looking car and 300hp. But oh my, the frequent visits to the petrol pumps are killing me. Nice small engine diesel next me thinks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I bought a new car yesterday. Paid the balance and take my current car to the dealer on Monday. Found out that the previous owner didnt send the new owner slip off soi I dont have the full v5. Thats a bloody pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Are there honestly still people buying diesel cars? Haven't you been watching the news over the last 5 years? About the worst possible combination is a VAG diesel. VAG cars are unreliable, pump out loads of crap causing the deaths of thousands each year and VAG are a pretty despicable company all round. My Ateca is an awful car and I wish I'd stayed with the Toyota hybrid. Yet the Ateca wins awards and hybrids are slated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, darrenm said: Are there honestly still people buying diesel cars? Haven't you been watching the news over the last 5 years? About the worst possible combination is a VAG diesel. VAG cars are unreliable, pump out loads of crap causing the deaths of thousands each year and VAG are a pretty despicable company all round. My Ateca is an awful car and I wish I'd stayed with the Toyota hybrid. Yet the Ateca wins awards and hybrids are slated. Are VW worse than anyone else in reality? They said they were better which was the lie. I have a diesel and my next car will be a diesel. I do an 85 mile round trip for work so Diesel all the way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, darrenm said: Are there honestly still people buying diesel cars? Haven't you been watching the news over the last 5 years? Yes, the missus purchased a used Diesel Ford Focus the other day there for work/nipper to school etc. Did you mean New or used or just in general? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC_Hitz Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, darrenm said: Are there honestly still people buying diesel cars? Haven't you been watching the news over the last 5 years? About the worst possible combination is a VAG diesel. VAG cars are unreliable, pump out loads of crap causing the deaths of thousands each year and VAG are a pretty despicable company all round. My Ateca is an awful car and I wish I'd stayed with the Toyota hybrid. Yet the Ateca wins awards and hybrids are slated. Haha you said VAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 15 hours ago, stuart_75 said: Had a 2008 135i coupe for about 8 months now, lovely looking car and 300hp. But oh my, the frequent visits to the petrol pumps are killing me. Nice small engine diesel next me thinks. Nice. Bet that's got a turn of speed and a half! I'm not quite in the same league but my 3.2 A3 pumps out close to 250bhp and it is rapid. I'm finding the fuel economy ok though mainly because my old 328ci was averaging about 18mpg towards the end so this is an improvement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 hours ago, darrenm said: Are there honestly still people buying diesel cars? Haven't you been watching the news over the last 5 years? A colleague of mine purchased a nearly new Merc diesel yesterday, which I thought was strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Genie said: Are VW worse than anyone else in reality? They said they were better which was the lie. I have a diesel and my next car will be a diesel. I do an 85 mile round trip for work so Diesel all the way. There was an interview with some science bod the other day, he was 'responsible' for the UK testing regime that had been simply believing the dialled in tests from the manufacturers. The interviewer mentioned VAG being the worst and he stopped her and corrected her. He said they were fairly typical, but had made the most noise about not being typical. He said the worst in his experience was any vehicle with Jeep written in it. Curiosity, how much would an 85 mile commute cost you? In round numbers, my 1600cc petrol hybrid would do that on a smudge over a gallon, so about £6* without getting my calculator out. Similar ish I guess? Just got my nerd calculator out, an 85 mile trip would cost me £6.60 in fuel. Edited February 17, 2018 by chrisp65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 56 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: There was an interview with some science bod the other day, he was 'responsible' for the UK testing regime that had been simply believing the dialled in tests from the manufacturers. The interviewer mentioned VAG being the worst and he stopped her and corrected her. He said they were fairly typical, but had made the most noise about not being typical. He said the worst in his experience was any vehicle with Jeep written in it. Curiosity, how much would an 85 mile commute cost you? In round numbers, my 1600cc petrol hybrid would do that on a smudge over a gallon, so about £6* without getting my calculator out. Similar ish I guess? Just got my nerd calculator out, an 85 mile trip would cost me £6.60 in fuel. I’ve got an old 2.0L Diesel but it does give me 49/50mpg on a run. My journey is all motorway apart from the first and last mile or so. It costs about £45 a week / £9 a day. If I went for a 1.6L Diesel next like the Ford Focus for example I’ll be down to about £7.20ish a day on today’s fuel prices. If I went for something like the Renault 1.3L Diesel engine I’d possibly be lower than your hybrid cost. I think Toyota and others do a 1.3L Diesel too. Edit: Not sure Renault do a 1.3D after checking, they do a 1.5 in their Megane which returns 68.9mpg extra urban and 60mpg combined. Edited February 17, 2018 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Yes, that's interesting, and it is, similar ish. Wasn't a dick measuring contest, honest. I guess it gets to a point where it's also down to an individual's driving style. Seeing my mpg improve as it has has actually caused me to think about it more and drive less aggressively. So when I say I'm getting nearly three times the mpg I used to, I'm not strictly comparing like with like, as I drive this one differently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Yes, that's interesting, and it is, similar ish. Wasn't a dick measuring contest, honest. I guess it gets to a point where it's also down to an individual's driving style. Seeing my mpg improve as it has has actually caused me to think about it more and drive less aggressively. So when I say I'm getting nearly three times the mpg I used to, I'm not strictly comparing like with like, as I drive this one differently. Other factor for me is the outlay and then depreciation. Doing the mileage I do means whatever I buy is gonna drop in value very quickly. Spending money on a hybrid is going to be a bad investment long term, especially when I can get similar economy from a diesel for a fraction of the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 17, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) I reckon it would cost me £11-12 in fuel to do that journey. Edited February 17, 2018 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_75 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Xela said: Nice. Bet that's got a turn of speed and a half! I'm not quite in the same league but my 3.2 A3 pumps out close to 250bhp and it is rapid. I'm finding the fuel economy ok though mainly because my old 328ci was averaging about 18mpg towards the end so this is an improvement! I was getting bang on 30mpg during the summer, but now its dropped to 28mpg, so for 6 cylinders and 2 turbo chargers I supposed I cant grumble too much. Next car will be a diesel mind you in a few months time. If anyone is in the market for a future modern classic, you know who to PM :o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I've got a 10 year old Astra that i really need to change now. I love the look of merc cla but the reviews seem average. Any experience of them on here? Would it be worth the money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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