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  1. I just can't handle debating whether Bruce should be sacked or not for another 4 months til the next season kicks off. This doesn't have to be all about loving Steve Bruce but anyone who wants to discuss him or his tactics or anything relevant, without calling for him to be sacked before the season starts (which I find a totally ridiculous notion)...... I say welcome.
  2. We've had 42 competitive match threads on VillaTalk this season, each one a real time conversation about how we've been getting on. I've selected a comment from the last page of each match thread to create an Alex McLeish anthology in VT posts. It's not pretty, but it provides an interesting and poignant season review. Here we go - Fulham away: 0-0 Blackburn home: 3-1 not too bad against a team we've played 11 times in the last 18 months! You a glass half full type of guy? 32k for the first home game of the season is awful. Mcleish definitely had an effect on sales, not taking away this victory. LC2 Hereford home: 2-0 I've got 3-0. May the best man win! Don't say that... I thought I was going to win. Wolves home: 0-0 Everton away: 2-2 Newcastle home: 1-1 LC3 Bolton home: 0-2 QPR away: 1-1 Wigan home: 2-0 Man City away: 1-4 West Brom home: 1-2 Sunderland away: 2-2 Norwich home: 3-2 Spurs away: 0-2 Swansea away: 0-0 Manchester United home: 0-1 Bolton away: 2-1 Liverpool home: 0-2 Arsenal home: 1-2 Stoke away: 0-0 Chelsea away: 3-1 Swansea home: 0-2 FAC3 Bristol Rovers away: 3-1 Everton home: 1-1 Wolves away: 3-2 FAC4 Arsenal away: 2-3 Newcastle away: 1-2 QPR home: 2-2 Man City home: 0-1 Wigan away: 0-0 Blackburn away: 1-1 This may or may not be true - however, it never needs to be written down or said out loud. Thank you. Fulham home: 1-0 Arsenal away: 0-3 Chelsea home: 2-4 Liverpool away: 1-1 Stoke home: 1-1 Manchester United away: 0-4 Sunderland home: 0-0 Bolton home: 1-2 West Brom away: 0-0 Spurs home: 1-1 Norwich away: 0-2
  3. Someone had to start one. And to avoid clogging up the Bruce thread with speculation and names, if Bruce is to go soon (which could be likely if things don't pick up), who would you like to see replace him?
  4. I believe it was @Grasshopper who made a post listing the managers at the top clubs in England, and pointed out that English managers aren't as good. While I am in agreement that the best of English managers aren't, it got me thinking that is it also down to a lack of opportunity at the top end? And why is there this lack of opportunity? It's easy to name the managers at the top 6 as very good managers - they all are - but they were all given an opportunity at a big club to show that off. Were the jobs that they did previous to getting a job at their first big club really that impressive? Was it simply down to their leagues not having 5/6 teams competing at the top and therefore they could take more gambles?
  5. So, we've had 11 permanent managers thus far in this century. Some have fared better than others, some have worked under difficult circumstances, some under difficult chairmen and it's fair to say some have been better than others. Which leaves it to you fine people of VT to judge. What I'm looking for from you is these eleven managers, in order, by your opinion of who did best for us through to who did worst. John Gregory 2000 - Jan 2002 Graham Taylor 2002 - May 2003 David O'Leary 2003 - July 2006 Martin O'Neill 2006 - Aug 2010 Gerard Houllier 2010 - June 2011 Alex McLeish 2011 - May 2012 Paul Lambert 2012 - Feb 2015 Tim Sherwood 2015 - Oct 2015 Remi Garde 2015 - March 2016 Roberto DiMatteo 2016- Oct 2016 Steve Bruce 2016 - present Enjoy!
  6. Been a bit of a crap one, hasn't it? Started out with the board refusing to back a new manager, followed by humiliation and relegation. Between it all were the protests - which were (if I do say so myself) something to be proud of. Then we get Tony, RDM and the absolute chaos of his management. Following that Bruce and a revival. Been one hell of a year and one we won't forget - for bad reasons mainly, but some good in there in parts. What are your main memories?
  7. Should rdm be rightly dismissed from the role who would you pick and why? Personally I'd go for Rowett as he has shown a capability of building and motivating a team to compete in this league with far less resources. I think he would relish the opportunity of working with far superior players and would have us competing pretty quickly. He has shown he can work with a basket case club under difficult circumstances and he would be highly motivated to do well for us
  8. Do you want Di Matteo sacked? Please vote as per poll. The previous poll 10 days and 2 matches ago had 17% sack him now, 30% in 2-3 games if nothing improves and 53% to give him longer.
  9. Do you want Di Matteo sacked? Please vote as per poll.
  10. With the Old Firm game rearing it's head again this weekend, it got me thinking that there appears to be a surprisingly large amount of Aston Villa and Celtic managerial connections for 2 clubs in 2 different countries miles apart from each other. First up there is Jimmy Hogan, who is probably more famous in central European football than in this country. Hogan managed Villa back in the 1930's and later coached at Celtic. Then there is Tommy Docherty- who was influenced by Mr Hogan as a young player at Celtic, had a short spell in charge of the Villa in the 1960's. Fast forward 20 off years and Villa had Billy Mcneill in charge. He was is considered a legend with Celtic as the European cup wining captain and later manager. He was at Villa in a short time in the 1986-87 season in which we got relegated. After this Villa had Doctor Josef Venglos as the manager for a season in 1990-91, as the first foreign top flight manger in English football. He was probably a bit before his time in the pre sky english football era. Doctor Jo then had a year as the manager at Celtic later on the in 1990's. After 2006 we had the salad days of Martin O'Neill, who had just had a year out in management after previously being the boss at Parkhead for five years. And of course who can forget Paul Lambert spell at the Villa? I know we are trying to. Lambert of course played under O'Neill at Celtic. That seems a lot of connections- its all a bit strange!
  11. MARTIN O’NEIL Let’s go back to that defining day when MON, probably thought „Up Yours Randy“, decided to walk. He felt “wronged” enough to take Randy to task over “wrongful Dismissal”. He “won” of sorts and The club, we the fans, lost the first round of many where “Consequences have conspired” against Aston Villa FC and it’s Fans. Is it possible to interpret MON’s actions as “Now I’ll do you over Randy”? KEVIN MACDONALD I recall him saying in an interview that he wanted the job of Managing ASTON VILLA FC. Maybe the way he was ignored for the job, KMAC probably thought „ Up Yours Randy “, then decided to lose 6-0 to Newcastle. Is it possible to interpret KMAC’s actions as “Now I’ll do you over Randy”? GERARD HOULLIER A right or wrong appointment? We’ll never really know. STEVE MCCLAREN Randy tried to employ him, which understandably by most fans opinion, would have been a wrong decision. A big „ Up Yours Randy“ from the fans. Is it possible to interpret Randy’s actions of appointing McLeisch as “Now I’ll do you over ” to the fans? ALEX MCLEISH Was a former BCFC Manager who had just relegated them to the Championship, and should never have been even considered as worthy of the position of “Manager of ASTON VILLA FC”. Not only due to his abilities as a Football Manager but also the unthinkable of taking a failed BCFC Manager as someone deserved to serve ASTON VILLA FC and it’s fans. AMcL is probably an honest man who felt honoured being our Manager. He treated the club and fans with respect, However, he was just the wrong man at the wrong club. The only thanks I have towards him is that he didn’t relegate us. PAUL LAMBERT By now it was beginning to show how uninterested Randy was in us. He had proved his point to himself by appointing McLeish and getting away with it. His lack of Football knowledge lead him to numerous decisions that meant he could hide behind a wall of “Patsies” and run the club as to relieve him of the Financial losses his own lack of foresight created. PL cut the wage bill and kept us up twice. During PL’s reign this fact allowed our Owner/Custodian to consistently move the Goalposts. The obvious consequence of this was that at some point PL was going to say „ Up Yours Randy “. I believe PL could have been a good appointment under different circumstances, but alas, Randy Lerner can take pride in his stubbornness and stupidity that broke an honest man, turning him into a different animal. It has been made known that PL “invited” Randy to sack him more than once, deserving himself compensation. Randy wouldn’t do it, leaving PL hung out to dry. I am not in the least surprised if PL took this attitude “OK, if that’s the way you want to play it – I can play that game too” The mumbling interviews, bungling tactics and formations, records broken here, there and everywhere, sideways-passing.........................etc Was it gamesmanship from PL to RL in answer to his stubbornness and decision-making? Is it possible to interpret Paul Lambert’s actions of “staying put until you sack me for my compensation” bringing us closer and closer to the inevitable as “Now I’ll do you over Randy” ? MARSHALL & ??? Asking PL for advise on how to beat Leicester in the FA Cup!!!!!!!! WT? (need I go into that one?) Is it possible to interpret Marshall &???? actions as “Now I’ll do you over Randy” ? TIM SHERWOOD Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Many things can be said about Tim, But, he achieved the seemingly impossible by keeping us up last season, 2nd half v Leicester FA Cup, FA Cup v WBA, FA Cup Semi-Final at Wembley v Liverpool & a date in the Final v Arsenal. It’s irrelevant now how it happened, “Get into them Slaaaaaags” Benteke thinking “OK score a few – get a move” Cleverley thinking “OK I’ll play to impress Roberto Martinez” or simply a different voice than PL’s, Were the 3 relegated teams worse than us? However, The most striking thing for me is the following. I know that it can only be conjecture, but if I can suggest a pattern that has continued throughout, MAYBE there is a continual common reaction towards Randy Lerner. Tim Sherwood is a Cocky- Cockney, he wants to be the stereo-type therefore he plays on it. His Tactics, Team selections, admissions, Denials and subsequent comments about the club, players, staff....etc Suggests to me he wanted out a long time ago. From the 6-1 loss to Southampton, the defeat to an already relegated Burnley at the last home game of the season (a special day for the fans), The 4-0 FA Cup embarrassment v Arsenal, A fluked win away (our only one since WH) to Bournemouth, Surrendering a 2-0 lead away against Leicester due to his famed substitutions, The “Waving arms” clip so often posted here, guiding the team to the bottom of the league............... I could go on.................and there are many a comment that contradicts common logic.............. Is it possible to interpret Tim Sherwood’s actions as “Now I’ll do you over Randy” ? Is it possible that Tim deliberately conspired to run the team into the ground, killing any kind of confidence, belief in the same players he had playing like “Semi-Gods” in a FA Cup Semifinal? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (I’ll insert KEVIN MACDONALD Again here Is it possible to interpret KMAC’s Team selection against Spurs & Southampton as “Now I’ll do you over Randy”?) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If we go through some players one by one and note how they have been effected by Tim Sherwood’s conspiracy against Randy Lerner (and subsequently ASTON VILLA FC & its Fans). Guzan – Confidence at an all time low, ruined by Tim’s comments & handing Given – Moved on knowing Guzan was shot – not adequately replaced Cissokho – Loaned out knowing that Richardson was past it – Yes Amavi was first choice, but only a fool could presume that Amavi would stay 100% injury & suspension free Lescott – was obviously past it Gil – a talent ignored Grealish – egoed him into Mr Big - Whatsits Gestede – not utilising his obvious strengths. Generally our squad is not fit. Any new players coming in, either slated, not played, hung out to dry. Can Tim Sherwood be accused of disjointing anything we had going for us, just to get out, get his 2mill compensation. Blaming everybody except himself? Constructive dismissal? A Charlatan? Cheating the fans, Staff and everybody at the club by bringing us down as far as possible leaving such a mess that no-one can save us. Only to claim himself to be a good “football man” in saving us from relegation, getting us to a FA Cup final the season before? “If only the club had listened and bought the players I wanted”. “The players they bought are all terrible and I proved it”. “The Club’s run by amatuers” “Who are Viller anyway, Not Tot’nam” “Who wants to live in Berminam anyway?” “Ow’s it gowin ‘Arry?” Randy Lerner is ultimately responsible for the present state of ASTON VILLA FC. But he must be a difficult person to work for. It seems that MON, KMAC, Lambert, Marshall, Sherwood & KMAC again have all decided to “Up Yours Randy” at some point, to the detriment of ASTON VILLA FC its staff and fans ASTON VILLA FC the club we, the fans, love. I think we have enough in the squad, if used correctly, to be safe over a whole season. From the Squad left to us by PL/RL we needed to add credibly GK - Given/Guzan – enough to survive RB – Huton/Bacuna – Good enough for PL 15-17th LB – Cissohko – Good enough for PL 15-17th CB – Okore & Clark worked – Senderos was good enough DMF – Sanchez – if fit enough – good enough MF – Westwood – Good enough for PL 15-17th AMF – Gil, Grealish, Sinclair more than adequate New signings Richards – Good PL player Lescott – past it – emergency use only Amavi – Showed he was capable – we’ll have to wait now (cruel blow as it left us with Richardson) Gana – was nearly ruined by TS – proving to be a worthwhile addition (note – would be better had TS not confused the squad) Vertout - was nearly ruined by TS – proving to be a worthwhile addition (note – would be better had TS not confused the squad) Traore – obvious talent Ayew – Turning out to be a great player for us Gestede – it annoys the Hell out of me that we don’t feed him what he needs (talk about putting Petrol in a Diesel motor) CROSS THE BLOODY BALL We should have gone all out for Austin (QPR) – We needed to replace Benteke’s Goals, not Benteke . Replacing Benteke was always going to be impossible, But 32.5mill should have been enough for 2 players who could score (if used correctly) Cleverley & Delph were vastly overrated (TC had about 6 really good games) (Delph was always good for a costly mistake losing possession & not tracking midfield runners into our box) REMI GARDE I see a difference now that Remi is here. He seems to have a concept of how he wants to do things. The fact that the players are totally devoid of confidence & belief is not on him. I believe he is turning things around. ManC was a good start The international break & losing Amavi was not good for him Everton & Soton showed him a lot about the fragile nature of our squad Watford was an example of how good we can be at messing things up for ourselves, but forget the name, they are now 8th Arsenal are in a different league to us Newcastle was a game where the conditions dictated – I’m just glad we got a point For me West Ham is a Draw needed - but a win would be really good for us Norwich & Sunderland are must wins From then on in we have to start upsetting the odds to survive Bringing back Cissohko Leaving out Richardson Making waves about getting rid of N’Zog, Gaby are good news. Kozak & Senderos - I’m not sure of, maybe they have been broken, like Lambert was. Targeting a new GK, Enforcer, playmaker & Striker is good news Getting the players up to speed All these things are a sign of mostly good judgement, so I’m 100% behind him and his Staff. I hope from the bottom of my heart and soul that Remi Garde can somehow crawl us back up the table and out of the Relegation zone before the last game against Arsenal away. If only to prove that we are ASTON VILLA FC a unique Football club and that even the most incapable owner, his decisions and any Manager under him who has conspired against us (the fans – the true heartbeat of the club) can not bring us down. Villa till & Die Grasshopper
  12. KJT123

    New manager

    It's looking increasingly likely that Tim will be gone by Monday. Who does everyone want next?
  13. This might be the final Sherwood vote. After losing yet again today, what would you do in Tom Fox's shoes?
  14. As the poll says, would you ever want Aston Villa to lose if it meant getting rid of a manager you don't rate? It's absolute anathema to me to ever want us to lose, but even I can almost understand it given our current circumstances.
  15. name your new manager who should replace Sherwood?
  16. It was the 14th of February this year, when the Sherwood love affair with Villa started. The following day saw the first signs of Sherwood's influence, when he visited the dressing room at halftime to help inspire the team to a 2-1 win over Leicester in the cup. Before that, we were heading for yet more disappointment - with another frustrating first half performance, the sort we were used to under Lambert. But after leaving his seat in the stands and giving a morale boosting talk, a different Villa appeared for the second half. We ended up winning 2-1 and putting on a much better display for the fans. Fast forward seven months and Tim has a new team under his control, bringing in 11 new players during the summer - transforming the club from top to bottom. Last week saw us play Leicester for the first time since the display in the cup back in February, and this time saw one of the best first half displays we have put on for a long while. Culminating in a 1-0 half time lead thanks to Jack Grealish who scored his first goal for the club. The second half was a different story, compared to the encounter in February. We managed to force a 2-0 lead, thanks to great work from Agbonlahor to set up Gill, but it was all downhill from there. Gill was almost immediately replaced by Ayew - who has struggled to fit into English football so far, and the team lost it's shape - leaving us losing important battles in midfield. And with Bacuna not being offered any support, it was only a matter of time before Leicester took advantage, with Bacuna's errors helped Leicester get back into the game. It was only after this that Sherwood made defensive changes, but it was too little too late and the game was lost thanks to a last minute goal from the pint sized Leicester winger Nathan Dyer. It was in stark contrast to February when Sherwood's team talk helped produce a fantastic win for Villa. This time he had no answer to Ranieri who used his experience to outwit Sherwood and win the game, when we should have taken the three points. The loss to Leicester was followed up by a performance most fans will want to forget, in losing 1-0 to West Brom. Once again the tactics could come under fire, as Villa spent most of the game being out-battled in midfield, playing long balls to Agbonlahor and for Sherwood to be unable to react to the stubbornness of Pulis' defensive minded team. Sherwood has done well in his short time as boss, but he needs to learn to cope when teams bring their plan a and plan b, and he needs to be able to react a lot quicker when things aren't going to plan. Sometimes it seems as though we have 11 players on the pitch, but there is no communication and we are looking at 11 different players, instead of one team. It's sometimes hard to see where players are filling in, and to see where the fluidity is coming from to help us attack. Even so, it's far too early to call for Sherwood's head. He has had 5 months using one set of players, and nearly two months with his own team. He does need to find a style which works, and yes he does need to stop making silly decisions which cost us points, but he also needs time to mould these players into what he needs them to be - and that might just take a little longer than we hoped. And now, we head into tomorrow and another battle against the great unwashed. Here's to a positive performance from Tim and the team.
  17. Set to leave Dortmund at the end of the season. Where do you think he ends up? Manchester City? Barcelona? Or somewhere more interesting....
  18. AndFos


    So, what is your best XI at the moment? Here is mine: Bench: Bunn Hutton Baker Bennett Westwood Gardner Sinclair Nzogbia Gil Tonev Robinson Kozak Agbonlahor Of course, there will be new left back. All of a sudden, the midfiels looks quite good!
  19. Would you prefer Lerner, Fox and Sherwood to remain at the club, or would you prefer new ownership and the probability that Fox and Sherwood get axed?
  20. ermie123


    Does anybody else find all this talk of Learner, Lambert, Culverhouse, tactics, transfer funds, who too buy, what is our future, how crap we are at home, what is the point of it all, ect ect tedious at all? The lack of information from anyone at the club being tedious and the absentee owner being completely boring. I just find that being a Villa fan now is getting just well, tedious. I usually go psychotic when Villa score a goal, but on Saturday i just smiled and thought don't get your hopes up as it will not last, and it didn't. It all just became tedious!!!
  21. Seeing as he hasn't got one yet. Firstly let me say this before I'm jumped on. He was my number one choice as manager. I was delighted he was made manager. I think he is a talented manager. This is not me saying I don't want him here. I also recognize that at least eight of the first team players seen today are not good enough to play in the Premier League. However - he needs to take some of the blame today's defeat. Delfounseo should have not been started ahead of Weiman - but Lambert is just going through the process the last two have - learning what they did - Delph, Ireland, Delfounseo aren't good enough, Clark still has an awful lot to learn and Bent is useless up front on his own. But his decisions in midfield today were incredibly stupid. Herd at right wing?! Bannan in the middle up against Fellani? Bizarre.
  22. http://www.telegraph...sal-demand.html Reading this article i didn't understand one thing: if it's Lambert that walked out from Norwich, how can he demand a fee for breach of contract? On the other hand, I have read that the it's the Norfolk club that prepares to sue him for unfair dismissal, whereas he said that there was a clause in his contract according to which he could talk with other club? So which is the truth? Thanks in advance to everyone that could help me.
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