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This needs its own sub topic though sir

Why lock its a story that is truthful. Lerner's time has been a rollercoaster and now he wants off.

All i have seen lately is fans defending Mr Lerner for the fact that he has spent money on the club and brought the good times here. The thing is Mr Lerner did not spend his money wisely. Now this is all down to him giving MON the freedom of the club, which indeed brought us success but at a huge cost. The main expenditure of the club when MON left was salaries, 75%+. Add into that the high prices paid for mediocre players, left us with a high bill that needed to be reduced. But all this came from Mr Lerner, sacking the old director of football that doug had who restricted how much we gave to clubs for transfers and who much players got for wages. Paul Faulkner has no clue on football and is treating the club very business like. Just to paint the picture of the rollercoaster ride Mr Lerner has brought to the club i want to show what squad we started with back in 2006 and bring you all the way through to the team we have now. Then we can see if we have gone forward or backwards over 6 years. 2005/06 The end of the Ellis ride 1 GK Thomas Sorensen 2 DF Mark Delaney 3 DF Jlloyd Samuel 4 DF Olof Mellberg 5 DF Martin Laursen 6 MF Gareth Barry 7 MF Lee Hendrie 8 MF Gavin McCann 9 FW Juan Pablo Angel 10 FW Milan Baroš 11 MF James Milner (on loan fromNewcastle United) 12 MF Steven Davis 13 GK Stuart Taylor 14 MF Eric Djemba-Djemba 15 DF Ulises De la Cruz 16 DF Wilfred Bouma 17 MF Peter Whittingham 18 DF Aaron Hughes 19 DF Liam Ridgewell 20 FW Kevin Phillips 21 DF Gary Cahill 22 FW Luke Moore 23 MF Patrik Berger 26 FW Craig Gardner 30 FW Gabriel Agbonlahor 2006-07 The Start of Lerner 1 GK Thomas Sorensen 2 DF Mark Delaney 3 DF Jlloyd Samuel 4 DF Olof Mellberg 5 DF Martin Laursen 6 MF Gareth Barry 8 MF Gavin McCann 10 FW John Carew 11 MF Stiliyan Petrov 12 MF Steven Davis 13 GK Stuart Taylor 15 FW Gabriel Agbonlahor 16 DF Wilfred Bouma 17 FW Ashley Young 18 DF Aaron Hughes 19 DF Liam Ridgewell 20 FW Chris Sutton 21 DF Gary Cahill 22 FW Luke Moore 23 MF Patrik Berger 24 DF Phil Bardsley (on loan from Manchester United) 26 MF Craig Gardner 27 MF Isaiah Osbourne 28 MF Shaun Maloney 2007/08 On the climb 1 GK Thomas Sorensen 3 DF Wilfred Bouma 4 DF Olof Mellberg 5 DF Martin Laursen 6 MF Gareth Barry 7 MF Ashley Young 8 FW Luke Moore 9 FW Marlon Harewood 10 FW John Carew 11 FW Gabriel Agbonlahor 13 GK Stuart Taylor 15 DF Curtis Davies (on loan from West Bromwich Albion) 16 DF Zat Knight 17 MF Moustapha Salifou 18 MF Wayne Routledge 19 MF Stilyan Petrov 20 MF Nigel Reo-Coker 22 GK Scott Carson (on loan from Liverpool) 23 MF Patrik Berger 26 MF Craig Gardner 27 MF Isiah Osbourne 28 MF Shaun Maloney 2008-09 Rising to the top 1 GK Brad Friedel 2 DF Luke Young 3 DF Wilfred Bouma 4 MF Steve Sidwell 5 DF Martin Laursen(captain; retiredduring playing season) 6 MF Gareth Barry(vice-captain) 7 MF Ashley Young 8 MF James Milner 9 FW Marlon Harewood 10 FW John Carew 11 FW Gabriel Agbonlahor 13 GK Stuart Taylor 14 FW Nathan Delfouneso No. Position Player 15 DF Curtis Davies 16 DF Zat Knight 17 MF Moustapha Salifou 18 FW Emile Heskey 19 MF Stiliyan Petrov 20 MF Nigel Reo-Coker 21 DF Nicky Shorey 22 GK Brad Guzan 24 DF Carlos Cuéllar 26 MF Craig Gardner 27 MF Isaiah Osbourne 45 MF Marc Albrighton 46 MF Barry Bannan 2009/10 Top of climb enjoying the view 1 GK Brad Friedel 2 DF Luke Young 3 DF Wilfred Bouma 4 MF Steve Sidwell 5 DF Richard Dunne 6 MF Stewart Downing 7 MF Ashley Young 8 MF James Milner 10 FW John Carew 11 FW Gabriel Agbonlahor 12 MF Marc Albrighton 14 FW Nathan Delfouneso 15 DF Curtis Davies 16 MF Fabian Delph 18 FW Emile Heskey 19 MF Stiliyan Petrov(captain) 20 MF Nigel Reo-Coker 21 DF Nicky Shorey 22 GK Brad Guzan 23 DF Habib Beye 24 DF Carlos Cuéllar 25 DF Stephen Warnock 26 MF Craig Gardner 29 DF James Collins 33 GK Andy Marshall 45 MF Shane Lowry 47 DF Ciaran Clark 2010-11 See the bank balance and get ready for the view to vanish 1 GK Brad Friedel 2 DF Luke Young 3 DF Stephen Warnock 5 DF Richard Dunne 6 MF Stewart Downing 7 MF Ashley Young 8 MF Robert Pires 9 MF Stephen Ireland 10 FW John Carew (on loan to Stoke Cityduring the playing season) 11 FW Gabriel Agbonlahor 13 MF Michael Bradley(on loan fromBorussia Mönchengladbachduring the playing season) 17 MF Jean Makoun 18 FW Emile Heskey 19 MF Stiliyan Petrov(captain) 20 MF Nigel Reo-Coker(vice-captain) 22 GK Brad Guzan 23 DF Habib Beye 24 DF Carlos Cuéllar 27 MF Isaiah Osbourne 28 MF Jonathan Hogg 29 DF James Collins 30 DF Eric Lichaj (onloan to Leeds United during the playing season) 33 GK Andy Marshall 36 DF Kyle Walker (on loan fromTottenham Hotspur during the playing season) 37 MF Moustapha Salifou 39 FW Darren Bent Under-21 Players 12 MF Marc Albrighton 14 FW Nathan Delfouneso 16 MF Fabian Delph 21 DF Ciaran Clark 25 MF Barry Bannan 31 MF Chris Herd 32 DF Nathan Baker 34 DF Shane Lowry 35 MF Daniel Johnson 42 FW Andreas Weimann 43 GK Elliot Parish 2011/12 Decline a bit steep 1 GK Shay Given 2 DF Alan Hutton 3 DF Stephen Warnock 5 DF Richard Dunne(vice-captain) 6 DF James Collins 7 MF Stephen Ireland 9 FW Darren Bent 10 MF Charles N'Zogbia 11 FW Gabriel Agbonlahor(temporary captain)1 12 MF Marc Albrighton 14 FW Nathan Delfouneso 16 MF Fabian Delph 17 MF Jean Makoun 18 FW Emile Heskey 19 MF Stiliyan Petrov(captain) 21 DF Ciaran Clark 22 GK Brad Guzan 24 DF Carlos Cuéllar 25 MF Barry Bannan 26 W Andreas Weimann 29 DF Enda Stevens 30 DF Eric Lichaj 31 MF Chris Herd 32 DF Nathan Baker 33 GK Andy Marshall 35 MF Daniel Johnson 36 FW Graham Burke 37 DF Derrick Williams 38 MF Gary Gardner 40 MF Samir Carruthers 41 MF Jack Grealish Now 1 GK Shay Given 2 DF Alan Hutton 3 DF Stephen Warnock 4 DF Ron Vlaar (Team captain)1 5 DF Richard Dunne 6 DF Ciaran Clark 7 MF Stephen Ireland 8 MF Karim El Ahmadi 9 FW Darren Bent 10 MF Charles N'Zogbia 11 FW Gabriel Agbonlahor 12 MF Marc Albrighton 14 MF Brett Holman 15 MF Ashley Westwood 16 MF Fabian Delph 19 MF Stiliyan Petrov(Club captain)1 20 FW Christian Benteke 21 FW Jordan Bowery 22 GK Brad Guzan 25 MF Barry Bannan 26 FW Andreas Weimann 27 DF Joe Bennett 29 DF Enda Stevens 30 DF Eric Lichaj 31 MF Chris Herd 32 DF Nathan Baker 33 GK Andy Marshall 34 DF Matthew Lowton 35 MF Daniel Johnson 36 FW Graham Burke 37 DF Derrick Williams 38 MF Gary Gardner 40 MF Samir Carruthers My first question is, who out of the 2005-2006 team would you have now. Then see how quick the cloth has been cut

OSG go get him

Overwhelming support for OGS on twitter and here. Randy do the right thing Sign Him Up

The only downside with OSG is why would he want to leave that lovely region of Norway

Great watch Fully on the Baby Face Assassins bandwagon, go get him randy

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If you want to protest the scalfs are good idea, but you have to do it on mass. If you have a few do it all it will be is a few unhappy fans. To get the message mass following is needed. Best way of this is to do what Ultra groups in Italy do (not saying we should follow all there behaviour). If the holte were to not come out for the first 15 this would give a message, yes??? But if the holte were to bring the scarves go up to the seat before game cheer the players in warm up, really get the atmosphere going rocking the place, the players would get up for the game. But once the player go in to change the fans also went in leaving all the bright future scalves on their seats, this would make a massive message. To improve this more which would need Ultra like co-ordination (why i suggest an act like them) would be to have select fans come out on 10 mins upper and lower to make a human formed ECK (upper holte) OUT(Lower). Image that in your heads as a scene hard to not notice if this were to happen. After the 15 mins were up full songs and chanting would resume and be non stop till 90 to show we are behind the players NO MATTER WHAT THE SCORE.

He has no forward plan. Seen he was saying well i played 4 forwards well if they are all in our half you could put a team of forwards out. Simple as this it seems clueless randy is running us as a business, aslong as we make money his happy along with faulkner. They have said the want to steady the books which is fair enough but atleast have a good manager to manager the resaurces we have to there best. Instead of a poor manager who can't.

What we need to get is a poll it halfway through the season. Who still wants to give him time and who wants him gone.

Can see why the fans are disgruntled with Mcleish in charge. It most be the most unwatchable football i have watched in a long time with him in charge. I feel he is holding back the younger players such as Albrighton, Bannan. While Ireland has had great games and Charlie has had spells of good football both are showing they are not working to the potential they possess under Mcleish. Also there is no attacking edge which is holding one of Englands deadliest finishers back. When we play matches recently we get up over the half way line and then have no idea what to do, this man is the man that will take us down no doubt about it. But it isn't all Mcleish's fault part has to go down to Lerner along with o'neill. Due to there recklessness they have overblown the wage budget on average players, meaning we have to now go through this stage of renewal. Overall we got to face facts with the squad at present top 10 would be a good position, but the style of football at present is poor and is making current squad member under perform. Plus Mcleish was mainly brought in to fix or fragile defence, which he obviously has achieve lol.

Got to be stan

Thats what everyone would do except our board

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This is surely the new signing everybody has been talking about

Just read wigan have rejected our bid

Bendtner is awful

Number 10 for 10m

Whelan saing we have put a bid in around 10m but not 10m why don't we just pay the cash his worth 10m pay 10m get him in

Given sorting out a compensation deal with citeh just like the dunne deal and ireland so there causing the delay not us

If we sign charlie for 10m or less quality business

Ender4 if we had friedel then we would have a good keeper still and would be able to spend 4m on a outfield player instead, given would be a good signing but if we would have signed friedel then there would be no worry.