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16 hours ago, TheAuthority said:

Honestly, the most powerful effect for me would just be for his supporters to see him for what he is. This bizarre personality cult has gone beyond comprehension. He isn't the savior, he isn't a great businessman who's going to drain the swamp, he's an odious narcissistic character which is proved by his  comments about military personnel who get captured/maimed/killed. I want the effect to be for his supporters to understand what he is, and then if they want to say "but I like his policies" on trade or jobs or whatever then fine. Just own it. It's the cultist worship I find terrifying.

He came in and he had a chance. He could have been anyone. I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. Obviously even in 2016 he wasn't beholden to the tenets of the traditional Republican Party  ( have you see the national debt recently?!? ) He could have worked with Dems on a real infrastructure bill for the US. The majority of the country has had no serious government investment for decades. At least the Brits over-engineered everything in the Victorian era so the stuff was still working a hundred years later. But in the US it's slap up a building as quick as possible.

I actually agreed with him in 2016 with some (a very small number, well one actually) of the things he said. He talked about how the US had to catch up with the rest of the world in infrastructure. I agree! e.g. Drive from Newark airport to Manhattan. Good Lord talk about traveling through Dante's Inferno. It's looks like and is a dystopian hell-scape. Crumbling buildings, the Lincoln Tunnel (Satan's asshole tube) where the concrete is stained with exhaust fumes and God forbid you hit traffic as you'll be sitting there for hours. Compare that to modern cities in Asia and the mid-east and it needs real rejuvenation. Fox News during the campaign liked to joke that he was to the left of Hilary on some issues. But it was all bluster. He would say anything at anytime to sell the himself. Just like any con-man.

Once in power Trump didn't do anything of note. He didn't start to rebuild the country. He surrounded himself with kooks, sycophants and fanatics who are prepared to pander to his ego to get what they want. Extremest judges on courts and an abhorrent immigration policy which serves - well God knows who.

He is happy with children in cages. That should be enough to tell you who he is. He is confused by people who would die for the country. That should tell you who he is. He'd "Grab 'em by the pussy." That should tell you who he is. If you admit all that and want to vote for his policies - well, fine. Be honest and I suppose thats fine. Denying he is anything other than what he is is self-delusion and that's the hardest thing for me to digest.

Personally I would like to see Grady Judd in the White House in the future, what do you guys think?

VLD.

Hi Guys,

An apology in advance......

A poster recently complained that I didn't reply to posts,

My reasons are....

Sometimes I don't actually have time ( organising a charity golf tournament at the moment ),

I may have already replied to the points raised and do not wish to simply repeat myself,

The poster may have been rude in an earlier post and I may not wish to converse in this manner,

Sometimes I am not even in the country so my attention may be on other things,

Some posters don't reply to my posts either, that is up to them in my opinion, they are not under any obligation as far as I am aware.

I am a member of other forums ( not football related ) so sometimes get involved with these.

I hope this clarifies things, I am never intentionally difficult and value your views... ( even when you disagree with mine ),

Regards,

VLD.

5 hours ago, Designer1 said:

Good luck with that.

FWR.

You could always google this information as I did......

VLD.

4 hours ago, blandy said:

Completely untrue.

https://www.odmp.org/search/year - Police officers who were shot and killed this year 35 (at most)

People shot and killed by the Police  this year - 661

 

Hi,  I did not say 'this year', please read my post again for clarification,

VLD.

On 26/08/2020 at 12:57, Davkaus said:

It sounds a lot like someone opposed to the protests has done the shooting, again.

Police routinely murder black people. People protest. Someone shoots protesters.

 

Have a look at the statistics old chap. Hundreds of of policemen killed ( bravely doing their duty ) and only a handful criminals ( resisting arrest ) killed. These officers will be jailed if found guilty of any crimes. 

VLD.

2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

Several people have tried to discuss your ideas and you've ignored them or made bad jokes rather than actually engage in a debate.

You have made some pretty right wing and bordering on racist comments on this board in your time here, so I'd class them as controversial.

I'm not expecting you to agree with me, and I'm certainly not expecting to agree with you. But most people on this forum are here to actually have discussions about their opinions. Not make inflammatory posts and then not engage with people when they disgaree.

You never know, you might open your eyes to a few things if you actually allow people to have a discussion rather than assuming you're right and laughing everything else off.

Thanks for the post.

Would you re-read your last paragraph and the look up the word 'irony' please.

'inflammatory posts', I think you will find these are the ones that you don't agree with.

That in no way makes them 'immflammatory'. 

Stop worrying about me having a different opinion to you, it's healthy to discuss these things and should not lead to anybody bring 'upset' or 'frustrated '.

VLD.

42 minutes ago, TheAuthority said:

The last couple of pages.....

New York City?

I would enjoy your thoughts on the problems in America at the moment and how you would like to see them resolved,

VLD.

4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

Genuinely speaking it’s quite frustrating. You come into topics like this, make controversial statements and posts, and if anyone tries to have a serious debate or conversation with you, you make (bad) jokes

Hi Stevo,

Sorry you are finding my posts 'frustrating '. I am not aware of making any 'controversial statements '. I may simply have a different opinion to you. 

I don't find your posts controversial, I accept that you see things with a a different perspective.

If we all agreed about everything there would be nothing to discuss would there?

My 'jokes' , well I 'nicked' the one about my wife from a Peter Kay I think, so blame him if you like

You are right that the subject under discussion deserves a serious debate. I think I have made some points that have attracted posters to air their views.

The fact that some people might not agree with my point of view is fine,......you don't agree with me, let's discuss your ideas then,

VLD.

3 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

There was me thinking we’d actually manage a serious exchange. 
 

never mind

Don't take it to heart pal. I have been blessed with a sense of humour. 

Keep smiling

VLD.

19 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

Huh?

Sorry Stevo,  there is a little joke in there somewhere mate....

VLD.

41 minutes ago, Davkaus said:

If those uppity black people would just sit down, shut up, and let the police murder them, things would be fine. Got it.

No you haven't got it at all .The local black community of the towns destroyed by rioting are appalled by the wanton damage to THEIR community.

You should probably stop watching CNN.

You do know they have a political agenda don't you?

VLD.

1 minute ago, colhint said:

I had a good friend when I was working in South Africa, a great guy, Indian by birth, Anyway he was carjacked, so he went and got a gun. He kept it for 4 weeks. He said the stress in case his kids found it was unbearable. 

I saw a debate with Obama, an d he was asked, why should I not be allowed to have guns if I'm a law abiding citizen, He gave good answers. He asked if someone should be allowed to drive a car if they were a law abiding citizen or should they take a test first. So why should you be able to buy guns without a test. Secondly he pointed out to them, there were known ISIS followers and supporters, known to the FBI and there is nothing the government can do to stop them going to a gun store buy as many assault rifles and ammo as they want and no one can do anything about it.

I have a feeling that in the not too distant future, trump will send in the national guard somewhere and they will be shot at and the defence will be they were acting to protect themselves against a tyrannical government as per the second Amendment.

Judging by the rioting and anarchy in some towns I would say it is some of the people that are the problem not the government.....

but I do take your point and agree it is frightening...

VLD.

1 minute ago, Stevo985 said:

Like I said, if you lived there and bought a gun it’s more likely to be used on your or your family than an intruder. You’d actually be placing them in more danger than if you didn’t buy a gun. 
 

What would you do in this country if somebody robbed your house?

I would tell my wife to put everything back where she found it and I would promise to raise her housekeeping 50p.....

Keep smiling VLD.

Your statistics explained...

Weren't the majority of those deaths suicides?

Keep smiling,

VLD.

13 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

Mine are backed up by statistical evidence. Just FYI

Can't fault your comments about statistics and I only know America from my holidays in Miami so not exactly an 'expert'.

I suppose the next time I am there and I have the misfortune to be robbed by someone shoving a gun to the back of my head I can inform him that he is statistically unlikely to shoot me.

Apparently you don't actually hear the 'bang'........

On a more serious note,

The week before I was visiting South Beach a young man was shot on the beach, so not exactly unheard of...

VLD.

1 hour ago, Stevo985 said:

If you bought a gun then you are increasing your chances of you or your family being killed with that gun. You would be doing the opposite of what you are intending.

The best way to protect your family would be to keep guns out of your house.

 

Leaping from "not trusting the police" to "not calling them if your house is getting robbed" is a weird connection to make. I think the police over there are, frankly, a disgrace at times. It wouldn't stop me calling them if I lived there and my house was getting robbed.

 

So no I don't think I would buy a gun. And I think your logic for buying one is incredibly flawed

That's fine, you have your views and I am still considering mine, 

VLD.

37 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

VLD apparently.

Try to expand on...'VLD apparently '

4 minutes ago, PieFacE said:

I was actually robbed a few weeks back, I did consider buying a baseball bat in the event it happens again but then just thought **** it, what's the point?
They took some shit and ran off, not the end of the world really. 

This time....

maybe next time you won't be so 'lucky'...

Sorry you were robbed though, I would hate to think of some yob rummaging through my house and stealing stuff I worked hard for. 

VLD.

4 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

That's my point above

One day you might need one

What kind of life is that? Why aren't they voting to create laws that mean that there are no days where they need one? 

I get your point completely but that isn't going to happen is it.

Okay, guns get banned this year, ( great ).

How many people would hand them in?

Would you, if other people wouldn't....

VLD.

Just now, sne said:

I don't own anything I'd be willing to kill for or be killed for and I feel sorry for those who do.

As for protection I think it's a false security that is more likely to get you killed than anything else. I would not have a gun under any circumstances unless I lived in Alaska and needed it for protection against bears,

Fair enough, you don't have a family I imagine, 

I have...

VLD.

1 minute ago, villa4europe said:

The theory of who breaks in to your house, what weapon they have and what you would do as a result is just a demonstration of how **** up America is

Can anyone honestly say they go to bed every night scared of someone breaking in? 

I certainly don't, nowhere near it, and I've been burgled 

You are the exception to the rule if bring burgled did not affect you. Most people would at least make plans to improve their security. Especially ladies I should think,

Maybe if they had been armed then you would think differently, ( you aren't Clint Eastwood are you? )

VLD.

10 minutes ago, Chindie said:

If I had a gun, I'd have blown my head off by now.

So probably best I don't.

Much like 99.9% of America should.

It actually doesn't matter  what you think America 'should 'be like does it? America is awash with guns. Okay you don't want one, maybe one day you might actually need one, what then......

VLD.

Okay, try to be honest here.....If you lived in America, would you buy a gun?

Most of you guys appear to not trust the police...

So a guy breaks into your house ( in America), he is armed...

You can't call the police because you don't trust them...

You don't have a gun (he/ she does )..

Do you propose to tickle him to death......

Just think about the scenario before you batter your keyboard.

And yes, I would buy a gun ( I think)...

My top priority in this life is to protect my family,

what is yours?

VLD.

On 26/08/2020 at 12:48, HanoiVillan said:

The size of a majority is not a measure of how popular a Prime Minister is.

What is then? Maybe the one who comes last is somehow first.( check out Bob Dylan, The Times they are a Changing).

VLD.

4 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

 

As you say, it is literally complete and utter bollocks no matter which way you slice it.

Sorry, I did mean Tory majority......

I was in a hurry as my golf partner was banging on my front door with a 3 wood at the time...

VLD.