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Some fans do seem to have SHA expectations levels now. Have to hand it to Lerner and co. theyve done a great job in regressing any expectations and the club in general in past 18 months. Quite remarkable job theyve done in that respect when you think about it. ANY half decent manager would not have us in the dunces half of the league. But some fans still think McShit is doing alright... McShit is our Gary Megson.

Agree with this bit.

Perhaps I haven't been looking hard enough then. I've just always got the impression that the media saw him as a solid mid-table manager who was good at motivating his players and keeping the defence tight. Maybe some do but i have read many rightly damning articles and match reviews of our current fraud of a manager.

It is a shocking stat. Only 3 home wins all season. Also add - Lost to Bolton B team at home in carling cup , already out of FA cup and McCrap has exceeded himself. He has achieved countless shocking stats this season. Awful manager . Hopelessly shit. Never should have been given the job given his previous failures in THIS league. 'Premiership experience' my arse.

Well The Guardian and many other national papers have rightly wrote many articles about what a crap joke McLeish is previoulsy . Its only some tw@t at The Times who wrote that whimsical crap and laughable pathetic apologetic article about how great McLeish is and mindless bollocks. Theres plenty of media that has criticised McCrap.

:? He's not rated. Well he is Scottish and is pretty much being criticised by all sane ppl.

Why is everyone who doesn't agree with you either a "McLeish Apologist" or "Stupid" ? I thought the site had rules about respecting other posters ? I didn't specifically call anyone on here directly a McLeish apologist or stupid. (aprt from that crap journalist who wrote that whimsical article about how great McLeish is) But im sure you know who you are if feel upset by such language.

And how has his "awfulness" been proven? :? Erm..relegating a Premiership side 2 times within 3 years. He had far better resources than some last season and still relegated Birmingham via his curmudgeon shite antifootball mismanagement with his own shaped most boring side possibly ever to play in the topflight. Hes a proven failure in 'Premeirship experience' terms. Hes a terrible manager and should be nowhere near a Premiership side. Hed be on the dole now if it wasn't for our utterly stupid board. Lets be serious for a minute. SHA are NOT a PL side they are Championship shite at best. They are at their level. He also won a trophy with them last year did he not? How many trophies did St. Martin win with FAR greater resources at his disposal? As for him being a "terrible manager" didn't he also promote that shower of shit from down the road. This will at least put him on a par with Hughton who many here seem to abuse themselves over on a regular basis. "curmudgeon shite anti-football" - Seriously? Do you actuall watch our games? Do you not see him screaming at the players to get the ball on the floor, pass it and get forward? No? Should've gone to Specsavers then mate. He's 24 games into the job, playing with a team who apart from N'Zogbia, Hutton and Stevens are not "his" players. The real reason you appear to be so blinded with hatred for McLeish is that he used to manage that bullshit down the road. As with the rest of you who brand anyone with a modicum of patience or positivity "McLeish apologists" I didn't want him. No one did. But he's here, and he's staying. The faster some of you lot get over yourselves the better. If we all got behind the team AND the manager and stopped behaving like spoilt little children I'd bet my house that things at VP will improve a damn sight faster. Read one of my above posts that also mention McLeish's diabolical record with us. 6 wins in 24 games :oops: 3 wins at home :oops: playing 6 defenders with Hutton and Heskey as wingers away to Spurs :oops: As for the suggestion anyone who dares to criticise McLeishs FACTually awful and woeful Premiership record is only doing so just because he used to manage Birmingham . You sound like that utterly stupid journalist who wrote that pathetic article in praise of McCrap. But for what its worth YES his woeful record with Birmingham is relevant because he failed there in Premiership and our current stats are a mirror image of his utter shite side of last season.

You reckon? You should have mentioned... :drowsy: Who else in Prem would have a given him a job last summer? No one. Hed be rightly in the managerial wildnerness on the dole if it wasn't for our stupid board . Hes been predictably terrible for us - actually no he has even been worse than that and dread what the idiot will do to us longterm.

McLeish apologists are laughable . His miserable record in the Prem is there for any non-stupid person to see.

And how has his "awfulness" been proven? :? Erm..relegating a Premiership side 2 times within 3 years. He had far better resources than some last season and still relegated Birmingham via his curmudgeon shite antifootball mismanagement with his own shaped most boring side possibly ever to play in the topflight. Hes a proven failure in 'Premeirship experience' terms. Hes a terrible manager and should be nowhere near a Premiership side. Hed be on the dole now if it wasn't for our utterly stupid board. STILL have to judge him on his time before even he got here? He's no chance of ever winning some round WTF are you on about? WAke up FFS He has won 6 **** games in 24 Prem games with us. He has won 3 games at home with us. Have you not noticed our record this season is a mirror image of his miserable Birmingham side last season? Honestly you McLeish apologists need to wake up. He was a fantastically SHIT appointment and has been doing utterly shite and has a shit previous record - Hes a shit manager - who else in the Prem would have appointed him?? You need to wake up

And how has his "awfulness" been proven? :? Erm..relegating a Premiership side 2 times within 3 years. He had far better resources than some last season and still relegated Birmingham via his curmudgeon shite antifootball mismanagement with his own shaped most boring side possibly ever to play in the topflight. Hes a proven failure in 'Premeirship experience' terms. Hes a terrible manager and should be nowhere near a Premiership side. Hed be on the dole now if it wasn't for our utterly stupid board.

Its a terrible article full of bullshite and false facts - at best its an apologist article for a proven awful manager that should be nowhere near a Premiership side let alone us.

Agreed. Well said.

They looked as incompetent as presumed / imagined

^^^ Stopped reading at mention of Leeds. McLeish is an awful manager with proven awful record and bet your life that muppet apologist for a crap manager journalist wouldnt pay money to watch McLeish's rubbish week in and week out

The desperate levels ppl TRY to defend McCrap and his terrible record is embarrasing. :oops:

Tho he will write it up as:- Harrrt Jonssonn Reo Teerry Ash Coollllle Becks Fraankie Stevie Joey Rooooney Germain

Quarter finals and crash out is the best he or anyone could do with England.

Well England did not qualify for the world cup in 1974 or 1978 long before any Sky Premiership. Also England did not qualify the Euros in 1972 , 1976 , 1984

Indeed - He has got better 'Premiership experience' than Capello. What more could you want?

No its not

Maybe Spurs , England and Redknapp might come to some sort of deal were he stays at Spurs but takes the England just for the summer of something? Or The FA will appoint Neil Warnock

Don't forget his proven Premier League pedigree. ^^^ This. Hes won more league cups in England than Capello. Come on the FA just think what McLeish could do with England.