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  1. Noted that the football special to Witton was back again last night, seems to me to be just for the European games.

    Was a bit strange considering it went against the club advice for home fans to use Aston, unless it was for aways fans. The announcements at New Street were in English not Dutch like previous games which suggests not.

    Not sure if the railways and the club were on the same page, maybe one for the FAB group to discuss with the club.

  2. 18 hours ago, OutByEaster? said:

    We've scored 20 goals in cup competitions so far this season - is that a record does anyone know?

    And if it's not a record, how many more would we need?

     

    Individual comps I have:

    40 - 1886-87 - FAC

    29 - 1960-61 - LC

    25 - 1985-86 - LC

    23 - 1962-63 - LC

    22 - 1974-75 - LC

    21 - 1976-77 - LC

    20 - 1912-13 - FAC

    20 - 2019-20 - LC

    20 - 2023-24 - UECL

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  3. 18 hours ago, OutByEaster? said:

    We've scored 20 goals in cup competitions so far this season - is that a record does anyone know?

    And if it's not a record, how many more would we need?

     

    40 - 1886-87 - FAC

    37 - 1960-61 - FAC & LC

    31 - 1985-86 - FAC & LC

    31 - 1981-82 - FAC & LC & Europe & Charity Shield

    31 - 1974-75 - FAC & LC

    30 - 2009-10 - FAC & LC & Europe

    29 - 1976-77 - FAC & LC

    27 - 1988-89 - FAC & LC & Simod

    27 - 1962-63 - FAC & LC

    24 - 2008-09 - FAC & LC & Europe

    24 - 1999-00 - FAC & LC

    24 - 1995-96 - FAC & LC

    24 - 1989-90 - FAC & LC & Zenith Data

    24 - 1964-65 - FAC & LC

    23 - 2023-24 - FAC & LC & Europe

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  4. 1 hour ago, sidcow said:

    Anyone know when that Gothic Victorian structure at the side of the North End was demolished? As late as when the North Stand was built? I guess some on VT may even remember it? 

    It was converted into a gym in the 1950/60s.

    I think it was flattened during the 1989-90 season.

    Doug put in planning permission for a hotel in its place in the corner of the North Stand, but nothing came of it.

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  5. A great list. Note that one of the own goals was by Ivo Stas. He was signed shortly after, but retired 12 months later without playing a competitive game.

    Staunton’s goal was unusual as it was from a corner. Not direct from a corner as he done before for us (like Douglas Luiz), it was towards the back end of this career and was at centre-back. Nodded it home from a few yards out. For many years he took corners, just seemed odd to see him on the end one instead.

    Yorke should have had few more but for the 3 overseas player rule. Staunton, McGrath & Saunders would generally be the 3. How the system worked was very strange to me. At the time we had 4 Ireland Internationals; Irish born Staunton was an overseas player, McGrath was an English born overseas player, Townsend was English and didn’t count, while Scotland born Houghton didn’t count either!

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  6. First time in this thread, not my thing really. A lot of old badges have appeared there. Not really worth clearing up as its not really that interesting, but for clarity, the 1956 version was basically our badge from the start if the football league in 1888 until the late 1960s boardroom revolution. It was on the clubs letterheads, in the programmes, and of course the old Trinity Road Stand. Its wasn’t until 1956 that we had, as a standard, the badge on the shirts.

    Anyway, nobody remember the very short lived 98 badge used in some club literature, so its not the first time this has happened:

    1998-99.jpg

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  7. 1 hour ago, HKP90 said:

    This isn't boring:

    Everybody needs to take a look at the Cup of Traditions trophy Aston Villa  just won - The Irish News

    In seriousness, the conf. trophy is beautifully elegant. See above for details. 

     

    Not sure if it’s the same cup but its in the window of the trophy shop in Old Hill. I’ve walked past it many times. Looks more like Neil Rioch close up.

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  8. 4 hours ago, BOF said:

    Anyone got the attendance figure for Sunday's game ?

    Nothing was announced at the ground at the time (that I can recall, however excitement might have got the better of me). Unofficially I have seen elsewhere 42,212. I'd probably wait a few more days and see if anything comes to light.

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  9. 2 hours ago, psavfc81 said:

    Haven't found a  first team Villa player yet although my Dad had trials in the 20s, most likely with the reserves but cannot find info.

    I’m keen on the reserves. If he had took part in the summer trials in August I wouldn’t have any record but if he trialled during the season I might know him. I’ll just need a surname if you’re interested.

  10. 14 hours ago, OutByEaster? said:

    @Unused Sub what did you make of the controversial penalty of Alvechurch's?

    Lots of people saying it didn't cross the line but that the watching Alvechurch keeper persuaded the ref it had.

     

    I was stood by the half way line with an elevation of about a foot. We had the previous penalty saved and my first instinct was that it hadn’t been a costly miss as the ball had bounced out (admittedly with my claret and blue tinted glasses). It was one of those ones where the ball concertinas the bar and goal line. In all honesty there wasn’t much in it all either way. From my view I would say the ball was more in than out. Whether the whole of the ball was over is debatable. I would say possibly not. Note, possibly not probably if that makes sense! I didn’t think the ref would give it. The ref didn’t signal anything, it was the lineman’s call. He walked up to ref with their gk in his ear. It took quite a while to give it. Suggests it wasn’t given on a gut reaction. Following this, their gk then threw the ball over the head of our next taker. There was no doubt that their gk was a clearing in the woods.

    The real test is that in my nerdiness (don’t judge me) I quickly note the takers shirt number as he walks to the spot and it put a squiggle next to his number if he misses. I squiggled.

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  11. The QF of the BSC is tonight; Alvechurch.

    Interestingly, the last time we lifted the cup (1985) we put seven past them in the semi-final (Paul Kerr hat-trick). I’ll be surprised if we’re in the hat for the SF this year, but you never know. Wonder if Diego Carlos could make a comeback appearance?

  12. I’d echo what the chaps have said above. The easiest starting point is knowing someone that was alive in 1921 or 1911, so talk to someone old and hopefully get back to that point in time with a name and a location. In general, censuses and marriage certificates are to the main documents to aim to find.

    I think most libraries have access to Ancestry for free if you want to keep the costs down. Sending off for certificates can be a costly business (it was about £10-12 a pop when I did mine about 10 years ago).

    Knowing local genealogy societies/groups will help massively. For me, I’m 75% Black Country so I had a few really good sites to help:

    https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com

    www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk

    I think most Churches records have been copied to microfilm and are located within most local libraires. I must have saved around £100 from getting the marriage reference numbers from westmidlandsbmd and popping into the Smethwick & Dudley Archives and finding them there instead of sending off for them.

    Also, newspapers archives are available in findmypast so you can search there. I found one of my lot being done for speeding in Cradley Heath High Street, got fined for doing about 20mph on a horse and cart.

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  13. On 12/12/2022 at 23:51, DeadlyDirk said:

    I'm struggling here, but who on earth is this?

    May be an image of 6 people and people standing

    Adrian Randall, trialist from Aldershot I think. Probably preseason friendly at Witney 1991. Sticks is bending forward next to him.

    Definitely 1991-92 judging by the tracksuit McGrath is wearing.

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