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LakotaDakota

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  1. They have done 3 or 4 musical episodes now. Seems to be a thing that lots of shows want to do since Buffy did it 20 years ago but Riverdale is now doing one every year & they are all shite
  2. But you can't choose who does from flu every year either. Yes I know it isn't the flu & we already have vaccines for that but a good flu season in the uk will see a few thousand die, a bad flu season will see 50,000 die, most of them will be old & vulnerablebut plentyof youngerpeopledie too. never once have we had daily figures of 1000+ being reported on every news outlet. No outrage over how unprepared the country is, no calls for lockdown & isolation to help prevent tens of thousands of people dying despite it maybe actually being a good preventative measure. People don't wear face masks even when they know they have the flu and knowing full well that if the elderly person on the train sat next to them gets it, it could be fatal. Hell I would put money on every single one of you having gone to work, the pub, football, gigs etc when you have been I'll with flu like symptoms before and not even give a second thought about spreading it, even in the couple of years recently that we have seen nearly 50000 flu deaths.
  3. 1 month ago (20th march) the total deaths this year in England/Wales were just under 5,000 down on the 5 year average, The graph above seems to suggest that a fair amount of this is down to flu deaths being significantly lower than average most weeks. Is the thought that Covid has killed many of these people that would usually (going on the same average figures you keep using to argue your case) die from flu really that wild of a theory?
  4. Perhaps because it's true but of course that doesn't suit the "we hate the tories" narrative of this place
  5. You can now watch Nick Cave 24 hours per day
  6. This seems to be automatically cycling through a bunch of live tfl cameras around london. Not chaotic normal by any means but plenty of people/vehicles about in some of them & hardly a draconian lockdown
  7. properly scrapped too, No champions, no promotion, no relegation. Just start again next season exactly the same as this season started. Still seems like the only real fair & sensible way to go unless leagues are somehow able to be completed
  8. That would be the couple that drank fish tank cleaner because they thought it sounded similar to something else.... Seems a reasonable chance that they are/were morons too
  9. Glad it's finally sunk in, I know these things can be complicated...
  10. No, that is only over 85s. Plenty of 65-84 would also have died, as would some random younger ones, especially those that already have existing health conditions like just about every single person dying of covid ag age is far from the only factor here.
  11. They are someones relatives, may well be mine but if they are over 85 then the sad reality is that 15% of them will probably die this year anyway .Hell my one remaining grandparent died 4 weeks ago when I was in quarantine. It was shit, I couldn't go to see her in hospital, couldn't be there with my parents, 1 of whom couldn't go either due to having heart surgery recently. There were 5 people at the funeral which would have usually had 200+. Everything about it was & is shit.not that it really matters but She didn't die of covid, she died of being old, just happened to be at the worst possible time.
  12. Anyway, onto more important stuff
  13. Nowhere have i said everyone would have died, an awful lot of over 85s would have though. I have the 2017 figures handy so will go with those 498,882 deaths in England. 341,620 (68.5%) of these were people 75 & over 59% Of this 341,620 were 85 & over. That's over 200,000 people 85 & over died in a single year in England. The population of england is/was made up of approximately 1.35 million people over 85 years old. 15 % of them died in 2017 If we are taking the figures you have quoted of 3485 people over 85 dying with covid are correct then you would imagine that perhaps 523 (15%) of those would maybe have died anyway based on the whole years info from 2017? Obviously this is just the over 85's. Again if your figures of nearly 90% of covid deaths are over 65 a proportion of these would also have died anyway. I'm sure if we find figures from one of the fun flu yeears they would be an awful lot higher than 15% https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/death-in-people-aged-75-years-and-older-in-england-in-2017/death-in-people-aged-75-years-and-older-in-england-in-2017 Approximately half a million people die in England each year, two-thirds of whom are aged 75 years of age and older. Life expectancy has risen over the past 25 years, and as such, the fraction of people aged 75 years and older has risen and is projected to continue to rise. As a result, the number of deaths in this age group is rising at an accelerated rate. The population of England is ageing, and this has important implications for the provision of end of life care, which the NHS intends to personalise and improve in the coming years
  14. but people do die every day, 150,000+ every single day, 6,000 every hour. 2/3 of these are of age related causes. This has been going on for 3 months now and only now has the worldwide death total even eclipsed the number of people that die every single day. Still over 50% of the covid deaths are over 85 years old & like it or not an awful lot of these 90,000 or so over 85's would have died anyway, that's what happens when you get to be over 85, a lot of people die. in this country 20%+ of every single death take place in care homes, Why? because care homes are full of old people.... the first official corona death was on Jan 11th, 101 days have now passed since then. At a relatively conservative average estimate (not even taking into account the usual higher death tolls in jab/feb) around 15 million people have died in this time. There have officially been just under 172,000 deaths attributed to corona in this time. That accounts for 1.14% of the total deaths. if it were possible to remove the severley ill/extremely elderly that have died with it this figure would easily be under 1% 2000 people die every single week in lombardy italy, always have, always will. 12000 have died there with corona in 2 months... People are terrified of death, someone on here, may even have been you even said the other day the objective of life is to live as long as possible. Is it really? Are people that terrified of dying that they simply want to exist for as long as humanly/mechanically possible even with pretty much no standard of life? Having had elderly relatives die this year already that were in homes/hospices & in a pretty bad way i'm not sure that any of them saw waking up every day with the aid of a machine a huge massive achievement 90 years into their life
  15. ignoring the headlines & mass hysteria for a second has anyone even got a clue how many deaths there are in care homes every day? Best i can find reasonably quickly is around 300 people every single day, approx 106,000 every year which made up more than 20% of all deaths but this is from 2014 and wouldn't be surprised if this has gone up at least 25% since then as it was forecast to more than double by 2040. 1 in 5 deaths are already in care homes without covid being a factor, has this changed at all or is it just more clickbait hysteria? "1000 people dead in a week in care homes" looks like quite a scary headline "1000 people dead in a week in care homes but on average this figure is usually around 2000 per week anyway" isn't quite so scary If anything it looks to be down, and possibly by some way... using the upto april 10th figures being blasted everywhere today: hospitals 8,673 care homes 1,043 home 466 Want to see how many old people died in care homes of flu this year? it will be more than all of the above figures combined
  16. Seems to have reached minus $37 per barrel which technically means oil companies are paying buyers to take their oil as nobody wants it and they have nowhere to put it.
  17. Stopped smoking haven't bought any in over a month, around £400 better off as a result already
  18. Sorry to hear this & hope she just ends up with the crappy cold bit before being fine in a week or two, same goes for you. Kinda shows how pointless any of the numbers are though. If you have been living in the same house/in the same bed etc then there is a very high chance that you have it/have had it and will have given it to anyone you have come into contact with over the past week or so but you will not be tested, nor will anyone else so will not be counted. This could be easily be 20,000 dying with symptoms out of 10 million+ cases but nobody has got a clue. Given that they make up such a small section of society The sheer amount of celebs/athletes/piliticians etc that have apparently tested positive would indicate that this is incredibly widespread. there is no possible way that 120,000 cases is even anywhere near correct. Could easily be that many people getting it and mostly being fine every single day
  19. I guess it is the from/with/of bit that is the issue.
  20. Guess we'll find out soon enough when 17 million unemployed americans decide they are going back to work in the next week or two. The whole would you rather lose 30% of your salary or your mom analogy thing is shite, It isn't that at all. It's mass unemployment by the million, entire towns/high streets that were already struggling potentially gone & not coming back. Look at america, fain enough 40,000 people looks like a huge number but about 8,000 people on average die every single day in america, 2/3 months into this and the numbers haven't even got to what would be an average week of people dying. Jump to italy, thousands dying looks horrible. Lombardy, the worst place in the world....in 2018 there were just under 100000 deaths in the lombardy region alone, That's nearly 2000 per week, there have, so far been 12,000 deaths attributed to covid in lombardy in nearly 3 months.... 400 or so mostly old people die there every single day even before covid, If these are all being recorded as of/with covid then the numbers can never actually go down
  21. honestly if you're feeling bad about going out just have a look at this and don't worry about it: It seems about half the population are barely leaving the house at all, 40% are out and about every day as they are at work which may or may not be anything essential and 10% are just carrying on completely as normal Worst case just arrange to see someone you know out for 10/15 mins every now & then. Organise shopping/excercise together or something, keep your distance but have a chat at the same time. Bumped into an old bloke i speak to at the football sometimes yesterday and had a chat with him for 15 mins, he was stood a good 10ft+ away but was nice to have a bit of a catch up https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232453/Britons-flock-shops-non-essential-shopping.html Britons continue to flout the criteria for essential shopping - as shoppers were today seen snapping up plants, drones, mirrors and pillows. In Plymouth, hundreds of shoppers were spotted at The Range, buying a variety of items not considered to be 'basic necessities'.
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