15 minutes ago, hippo said:

In terms of winning the arguments - yes the tories were on the ropes - in terms of winning votes they weren't.

most definately true, their support was holding up very well, and as things stand they were likely to return a slightly increased majority, a few seats here and there, however the election was called to enable a landslide victory and to create an effective parliamentry dictatorship through a huge majority, i think the tories were in clear danger of losing out on that,

25 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said:

**** this **** word removed using this attack to spread his hate

What she thought about Trump's election has NOTHING to do with this vile attack. Waste of oxygen.

damn lefties storming through social media scoring political points off of dead kids eh

9 minutes ago, mjmooney said:

May's Falklands moment. 

she, don't say that, you'll be accused of accusing the Tory party of using the events for political gain, c'mon we all know they would never do such a thing, 

we all know tomorrow Thersa May will go on the telly and say, ah yes where were we, ah yes weak and wobby u-turns, lets get talking about that again

Just now, Dr_Pangloss said:

Agree with this part, it's a question people time after time avoid talking about or proposing solutions. 

katie hopkins proposed a "final solution"

after the initial shock of finding out about the attack last night and thinking about the poor people caught up in it's effects, it didn't take long to see how the Tory party would use the events to their advantage, hell just the break in news focus itself is priceless for them and the breathing space it has given may, It;s stopped the momentum that was building up against May in it's tracks, It will also allow May to return to the highly controlled orchestrated speeches,,the stage managed appearences, All designed to show how she is strong stable and a magnificent leader, basically undoing most if not all of the recent unraveling of this pretense that was showing she is anything but this. 

wonder how easy she'll find it to hide her pleasure at how events have come to her rescue

20 minutes ago, PompeyVillan said:

Just as an aside, can we add the word "snowflake" to the title of the Labour Party thread?

I wannabe a delicate little snowflake too. 

of course you can be a snowflake, next time you see utter crap, lies or grossly misleading posts or information, just take the time to point out the errors of whats being said, that seems the usual situation where the term snowflake is used the most

Lynton crosby makes an emergency adjustment to the Tory party election strategy

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5 minutes ago, darrenm said:

Uh? I honestly thought you were from a Scandinavian country. I'm sure you said you knew lots about the political systems there.

Slightly creepy you've gone to the trouble of looking up my details. But I've got nothing to hide and I leave it out there, so I can't feel too violated.

It seemed that you not knowing how Corbyn vehemently opposed the Iraq war, causing Tony Blair to hate him now and constantly be trying to stick the knife in, was just a gap in knowledge that would be indicative of someone who didn't live in this country and just read facts off the internet. 

to follow the assertions about corbyn along logical extensions would mean all those anti war protesters, by being part of the populace that voted for a blair government were central to us going to war in iraq. 

48 minutes ago, magnkarl said:

 

For me personally I'd like to either see someone centre left or centre right come back on the stage with a bit more of a pick and mix variety than we have today. You don't correct something that is a bit off (like NHS) by blowing it up and going in the total other direction. You make small adjustments to make things better. That's what our system was about for a long time.

Unfortunately neoliberalism was invented and we have been driving determinedly  onward to a corporatocracy ever since. new labour was a center right party but unfortunately was still neoliberal, neoliberalism is the problem as its a ideology driven by an economic theory, well that is pure horseshit

Just now, magnkarl said:

The point of my argument wasn't that Corbyn said yes or no to going to war, it's the fact that we are trying to cram so many different people into two parties. Labour should by all means be 2 or 3 parties, with Corbyn being in one of the ones that would form further to the left.

you change your position quicker than may does a u-turn, problem is you based your claimed argument on a complete twisting of the facts in an attempt to portray something that wasn't true

6 minutes ago, magnkarl said:

Yes Nigel, I'm from Germany. Honestly.

The foreigner card is out folks, quick someone grab the Hitler card.

The only difference between us is probably that I've lived about 30 years longer than you have.

it ain't the years since manufacture but the miles on the clock that counts

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8 minutes ago, Awol said:

 

It remains to be seen whether it will take them smashing the Tories next time around to spark a renaissance on the centre right, but as it stands if they were animals you'd take both main parties to the vet.

we can only hope somewhere along the way a centre right party does emerge, shame it hasn't happened over the last 20 years, then we wouldn't have had to endure this extremist radical neoliberal far right corporatist plurocracy of a tory party we've had to for the last 7 years/ this lot make thatcher look like a lefty trot and an intellectual genius at the same time

your attempts to rewrite history to fit the narrative you want are despicable and then to try to wriggle worm like away from them when they are called out for the hogwash they are with symantics compounds the contempt your posts should be held in

7 minutes ago, magnkarl said:

You seem to forget that these two politicians didn't make these decisions alone, Blair's woes, despicable I agree, was made with his party's backing (of which Jeremy Corbyn was a central figure). The same can be said about Cameron's brexit referendum. We're not a totalitarian state where a PM can do whatever they want.

Blair made his mind up about the Iraq/afganistan conflicts way before he consulted his party or parliament and was always going to get what he wanted, and your not seriously suggesting Corbyn support him as a CENTRAL FIGURE of his center right government.

Cameron took a gamble on a brexit referendum in an desperate attempt on behalf of his party to cling onto power, his party got the election result it wanted, unfortunately for cameron he part lost his gamble with the referendum result, a bit like getting payed out on a each way bet for a third place, only time will tell if the gamble was worth it. the referendum was probably the right thing to do but it is tainted by being called with the wrong agenda, was debated with very little more than fearmongering and lies all around, and as proof of this, cameron couldn't wait to bugger off and get his self clear of the situation  

50 minutes ago, choffer said:

 

"Jeremy is trying to sneak into #10"

 

you mean like the last person to take up occupancy there?

16 hours ago, blandy said:

Just to add - IRA apart from bombing also was responsible for : kneecapping, punishment beatings, kidnap, extortion, smuggling, murder, torture, intimidation, blackmail, bribery, robbery......

They really learnt a thing or two from the British Establishment then didn't they, well apart from kneecaping, the British establishment preferred maiming people who stood up to them in different ways

5 hours ago, Demitri_C said:

This thread is like WW3 did people wake up on wrong side of the bed today? 

theresa may may feel she did about now

2 hours ago, StefanAVFC said:

Sorry for double post, but tee hee

 

reminds me of a conversation i had with a very ineffectual senior manager, i ended mine with somthing along the lines of, go run away then, look everyone ther're running away, a little bit of critism or debate and they are running away, 

55 minutes ago, blandy said:

 

 

Bloody Laura Kuenssberg and the MSM - just Tory stooges, right?

I think May should be worried, when people like Kuenssberg veer off from their default position of  toadying up teh writing is on the wall

Seems like The Tory's are getting so worried they have to steal and add a watered down Corbyn pledge to their manifesto and give people an extra day off work a year, don't get too excited as it will not be a paid day off like Corbyns extra bank Holidays.

The Conservative Party has today made a manifesto pledge to guarantee workers one day off work each year in order to drag a sick or elderly relative to a mountain-top to be eaten alive by vultures.

Simon Williams, a spokesman for the party said, “More and more workers are having to care for ageing parents, and employers are putting pressure on them not to take time off work

“But with this manifesto promise, Britain’s workers will not have to risk losing their jobs for disposing of a relative they could no longer afford to feed, keep warm or buy medication for.

“This pledge guarantees them time off work to provide end-of-life care for a relative by enshrining in law their right to a full 24 hours to drag their loved one’s still living body up a mountainside to be consumed by scavengers.

“This pledge also demonstrates our commitment to protecting endangered species, i.e. vultures.”

The spokesman added, “This day off will of course be unpaid. We can’t expect employers or the state to shoulder that burden.”

 

http://newsthump.com/2017/05/22/tories-to-allow-day-off-work-to-leave-elderly-relative-on-mountain-top-for-vultures/