momo

1 hour ago, bickster said:

Actual evidence of your claim

You have no idea what you're talking about, You really should stop making stuff up in your head

Do you want me to get DNA samples? Witnesses? Are you saying that France, Britain, Hungary and Germany has not banned the Palestinian flag? Are you saying that France, Britain, Hungary and Germany have not banned protests for Palestine? If so, you should get out of your own head and look at the society around you. You are just a villatalk admin. You don't hold the power to define what racism is.

1 hour ago, Tumblerseven said:

Balkans and Central Europe See Rival Pro-Israel and Pro-Palestinian Protests | Balkan Insight

So you just make wild claim after wild claim and here people have to refute you or your wild claims stand and are true right??? thats the shtick.

Do Palestinians in Palestine have this free speech huh? they want from us EU more than from their government isn't that interesting huh?

 

 

Thanks for providing proof for @bickster. In that same article:

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In Hungary, the government banned all pro-Palestinian events following the example of some Western capitals. It banned a solidarity demonstration for Palestinians in Gaza, which was organised in a Facebook campaign for Friday afternoon.

To me this is racism. But who am I to tell privileged white people about racism? They know better than me that racism doesn't exist. Supporting genocide in Gaza is ok then.

1 hour ago, bickster said:

What has racism got to do with this, That wasn't what your statement said. You said...

Europe, presumably the whole of it as you don't state otherwise think of the Palestinians as an inferior species.

You have provided absolutely no evidence for this statement and I very much doubt you could.

I understand you are discussing a subject with a lot of meaning for you but stop making statements that are utter bobbins, it doesn't help any argument you may have

I think you're smarter than that. What kind of evidence do you need? Big western european countries deny free speech for Palestinians and human people supporting Palestine. That's a fact. UK sends weapons to israel so they can continue the genocide in Gaza. What do you want more than that? Palestinians in eastern european countries are afraid to utter the word Palestine. Do you want me to prove it? Do you want a zoom call with these people?

Instead of arguing with me, you can fight for freedom of speech. You don't like Palestine? Fine. Idgaf. Nobody said you have to.

16 minutes ago, bickster said:

So that's a hard No then

Who are you to decide what racism is?

5 minutes ago, Davkaus said:

And it's fine for you to criticise that, but to claim it means he's going to be stripped of his citizenship for supporting Gaza is simply untrue, much like your claim about the flag being banned in England.

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/france-senator-gerard-darmanin-demand-karim-benzema-stripped-citizenship-muslim-brotherhood-accusation/

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A French senator on Wednesday called for Karim Benzema to be stripped of his French citizenship after Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin suggested the football star was linked to the Muslim Brotherhood, a Sunni Islamist party considered to be a terrorist group in several Middle Eastern countries.

“If the minister’s comments are true, we have to consider sanctions against Karim Benzema,” said Valérie Boyer, vice-president of the conservative Les Républicains party, in a statement on X.

Boyer said taking away Benzema’s Golden Ball — the highest individual award a professional football player can receive, which Benzema won in 2022 — could be a “first, symbolic sanction,” and suggested “the deprivation of his nationality” as a second punitive measure against the Franco-Algerian player.

“We cannot accept that a world-famous French binational can dishonor and even betray our country,” Boyer’s statement read.

The French senator’s reaction came after Darmanin claimed on Tuesday that Benzema had ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, in an interview on French conservative TV broadcaster CNews, without providing evidence to back up his assertion.

“M. Benzema is notoriously linked with the Muslim Brotherhood, we all know it,” said the French minister, a hardliner on security issues and secularism.

That information was quickly denied by Benzema’s lawyer, Hugues Vigier.

“This is false! Karim Benzema never had any relation with this organization,” Vigier told French daily Le Parisien late Wednesday, adding his team was considering taking legal action against the French minister.

An Islamist party that came to power in Egypt after the Arab Spring until it was ousted by a military coup in 2013, the Muslim Brotherhood receives funding from Qatar, and is considered a terrorist group in several Middle Eastern countries, including Doha’s frenemies, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

A devout Muslim who observes fasting during Ramadan and does not shy away from displaying his faith on social media, Benzema now lives in Saudi Arabia following his transfer from Real Madrid to Al-Ittihad — in exchange for a €200 million annual salary — last summer.

Back then, Benzema explained that his religion had played a role in the move.

“It’s important to be in a Muslim country where I already feel that people love me, it’s going to give me a new life,” he said. “I’m a believer, so it’s important for me.”

The display of religious signs in the public domain is a sensitive topic in France, where church and state have been separated by law since 1905.

This extends to sports: Earlier this year, the French football federation (FFF) refused to halt games briefly to allow Muslim players to break their fast — a practice recently implemented in the English and Dutch football leagues — claiming it would violate the principle of secularism.

“The idea is that there is a time for everything: a time to play sports, a time to practice one’s religion,” Eric Borghini, president of the FFF’s federal referees’ commission, told Agence France-Presse at the time.

Asked by French radio broadcaster RMC to clarify Darmanin’s statement, the minister’s cabinet said it had observed a “slow drift in Karim Benzema’s positions toward a hard-line, rigorous form of Islam, typical of the Brotherhood’s ideology of spreading Islamic norms in different areas of society, notably in sport” — which included “proselytizing the Muslim faith” on social media.

While acknowledging that these observations “did not amount to [grounds for] legal action,” the cabinet argued they “constitut[ed] a particularly blurred signal from an athlete with such a large following.”

17 minutes ago, bickster said:

Do you have ANY actual evidence of this?

Yes.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/10/15/nbxh-o15.html

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French police arrest Jews protesting Israel’s genocide in Gaza

Samuel Tissot

15 October 2023

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On Friday, French police arrested Jean-Claude Meyer, a member of the French Jewish Union for Peace (UJFP), for carrying a Palestinian flag at a Strasbourg protest. Another UJFP member, Perrine, was also arrested and held for an additional 24 hours on Saturday evening. As of Sunday night, it appeared she had not been released. A total of 13 people were arrested at the Strasbourg rally organised in defence of Palestinians as the Israeli state prepares a ground invasion of Gaza.

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31 minutes ago, Tumblerseven said:

So this is an actual propagandist.

A French senator on Wednesday called for Karim Benzema to be stripped of his French citizenship after Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin suggested the football star was linked to the Muslim Brotherhood, a Sunni Islamist party considered to be a terrorist group in several Middle Eastern countries.

Not a tweet but links to terrorist organization you just lied.

El ghazi statement was not just solidarity. He went into conspiracy theory that burned baby picture was ai generated its not proven by anyone as of now as i know. He said from river to the sea line which means.

"From the river to the sea" (Arabic: من النهر إلى البحر min al-nahr ila al-bahr) is, and forms part of, a popular Palestinian political slogan. It has been used by many Palestinian nationalists to assert varying territorial claims as to the boundaries of an independent Palestinian state as encompassing all of the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, comprising the combined area of Israel and the Palestinian territories.  Critics of the slogan argue that it is calling for the land to be placed entirely under Arab rule at the cost of the State of Israel.^[14]

This is not just expressing solidarity with Palestine .

So another misrepresentation and lies.

 

The inferior minister suggested these connections after Benzema tweeted his support for Gazans. Do you hate life or something?

What's wrong with Palestine being free from the river to the sea? Just more zionist propaganda to stifle Palestinian liberation. The meaning with the expression is not for you or any other zionist to decide the meaning of.

23 minutes ago, Tumblerseven said:

oh please...  that human animal quote if you would apply even the bare minimal of good faith you would know what he wanted to say and who he was talking about. 

Phrases like open prison or genocide... I think if you are right your argument should stand without lies or exaggerations.

Its very interesting that people would blame Izrael for dropping bombs on those buildings but they wont blame terrorists who occupies those building and uses population as human shields.

Its very interesting that people would blame Izrael for locking and surrounding Gaza but they will ignore countless acts of aggression and terrorists acts and wars. 

What kind of blame bears Palestinian people for not deradicalizing their population for not creating a strong and good democratic opposition to hamas for not pushing them out of Gaza? none? give me break.

 

oh so much propaganda!  natanyahu called Palestinian children "the children of darkness". He called all the Palestinians human animals. I will never show good faith to a murderous terror regime. Never!  How many dead Palestinians is good enough for you? You defend indiscriminate killing. Do you condemn natanyahu?

1 hour ago, desensitized43 said:

Complete nonsense. They’ve gone to some lengths to prewarn Palestinians in the target areas of an impending strike. If they had wanted to wipe the Palestinians from the map they have more than enough capability to do that in a couple of days.

Im not saying they are doing everything right - cutting off the water, power and food is pretty inexcusable but to say they don’t want to save the hostages as some kind of pretext to go in harder sounds like a conspiracy theory.

They killed 4000 Palestinian civilians, or would you rather me use the israeli connotation "human animals"? Building after building destroyed. They drop bombs on their heads in this open prison.  This is an ongoing genocide where the occupying inhumane people are trying to push occupied population out of the country.

Europe has hundreds of years experience with committing genocide against defenseless people. Even in Europe. So I am not surprised at all that the european outpost, israel, has cart blanche for killing as many as Palestinians as possible and throw them out to Egypt. Even the highest ranking military guy in israel said that it was their goal to get all palestinians out of Gaza to live in tents in the Sinai desert. I am not bothered linking to his interview.

3 minutes ago, Awol said:

Israel is at war Hamas and is trying to kill them. They are trying to get civilians to move out of the way so as not to hurt them if they can possibly help it. Hamas has an interest in hiding behind civilians and maximizing civilian casualties for propaganda purposes. This isn’t complicated to understand.

It's not a war. It's an occupation of a people who wants to break free. Now it's a genocide of that same people. You know it.

1 minute ago, sne said:

Ok

Don't believe the propaganda.

1 minute ago, Panto_Villan said:

Dunno, looks an awful lot like momo is.

Where? Now you sound like a israeli nazi. I support the occupied people to rebel against the occupier.

17 minutes ago, meregreen said:

Take a look at the map from 1947 that the Palestinians refused to consider. They were offered a 2 state solution by the UN, and refused. They preferred to drive the Jews out. Hamas, Hezbolah. Jihadists all of them. Do you seriously think they represent the Palestinian peoples best interests.

Give away your own country to settlers. Some white people decided to take a country away from its indigenous people and give it to some other white people. Did the people of Palestine vote? So it's not lawful.

29 minutes ago, meregreen said:

The impact was in the car park, where’s the crater that an Israeli air strike would leave. Pretty conclusive that this was a Hamas missile that broke up and impacted the hospital below. 

So you mean, a shrapnel from a rocket that normally has the power to destroy a windshield of a car, has made 1000 Palestinians fleeing the israeli attrocities die? I know you don't believe it yourself that a small rocket can have this effect. It was an israeli rocket. Your confirmation bias makes you blind.

18 minutes ago, meregreen said:

Nope. They don’t tie children down and burn them alive. They live their lives surrounded by people who’s actual stated aim is to kill them all. 

No israeli child was tied down and murdered. Stop these lies. No israeli woman was raped. Stop these lies.

As a matter of fact, just last week a Palestinian child was hunted and burned down by jewish settlers. Where were your tears then? Did you know that israeli soldiers rape Palestinian women at checkpoints? Where are your tears? Do you know israeli soldiers rape Palestinian men? Do you know that israel raids Palestinian homes at night at arrest children down do 8 years old and imprison them for months after months? Do you care? No, you don't.

Palestinians are not bad. It is not they who came from overseas to occupy another people. They did not choose to be occupied for 78 years and counting. They did not choose to ethnically cleanse themselves. Being silent is choosing side with the oppressor.

2 hours ago, desensitized43 said:

It’s unbelievable really that a doctor would choose to work in a hospital knowing there were hamas roaming around the place firing off rockets and storing explosives on the premises.

What choice do they have? Medics just want to do their jobs and save lives. They can’t make the west stop Israeli genocide and they need the facilities to work. 

5 minutes ago, a-k said:

Can you remind me what the Hamas charter says?

Hello my friend. We are now witnessing the sickening genocide of all Palestinian people from all historical Palestine, comitted by the zionist people of israel. Hamas was started by israhell and funded accordingly. Can't you see the big plan?