darrenm

I guess this is why the gov are still resisting more measures. In context, the vaccines are still doing a massive job of keeping a lid on it and things aren't as bad as they seem:

26 minutes ago, Genie said:

I feel like the opposition are playing against a side with no goalkeeper but they’ve fielded 11 defenders.

And they're already 5-0 up.

19 minutes ago, Seat68 said:

I would definitely put value in a poll ran by 2 people connected to the Tories. I can't see any problem with their focus group or results. 

Yougov any better?

basically he's got the Lib Dem vote which is pointless because there are no Lib Dem Labour marginals.

Attacked the left to chase a Tory vote that was never there and ends up turning everyone against him. Absolute genius move.

14 hours ago, sidcow said:

10,000 more cases today than last Sunday.  We've surely got to have another peak soon? 

The half term might come at just the right time to create a mini fire break. I'm sure a lot of this is being fuelled by schools. 

There does seem to be an impending booster spike on the horizon

I was there watching today. Different level from everyone else on the pitch.

Just now, MotoMkali said:

Luiz is the heart of this team subbing him off should never be an option over McGinn who can't run for more than 70 minutes in a game. Smh

He was visibly shattered from the travelling

What the **** just happened?

Utter prats

57 minutes ago, blandy said:

That's an odd way to phrase it. Particularly the use of the term "whistleblowers". Whoever leaked it (and it's believed to be Corbyn's close chums), leaked a report that Corbyn's own lawyer assessed and warned

 That's not whistleblowing, more like trying to pre-emptively skew the story. And as a direct consequence of that particular leaking, the people whose mails and whatsapps were referenced and named in the report are suing/sued Labour for that "deliberate misleading" and consequent reputational damage..

And now the infighting and general sh*tshow gets worse and more bitter as more stuff is leaked and counter-leaked.

Not sure what could be skewed or misleading about these specific and uncontested statements:

I think this accurately sums up the problem with Labour's current approach:

the farcical but also sinister way they are targeting and harassing Jewish people for 'causing hurt to Jewish people' at the same time as they explicitly name 5 people who they think may have leaked the submission to the EHRC around party infighting, costing the party millions in legal fees is all just so amateurish. Perhaps deal with what was leaked rather than go after the alleged whistleblowers might help to move forward.

2 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

How are the parties sorted from left to right on that chart?

 

It's actually probably a mirror image of their current political standings.

The Tories almost literally burning the country to the ground and Labour fall further behind in the polls. Jeremy Corbyn must resign.

17 minutes ago, darrenm said:

Also, if Southgate was shifted off, I can think of someone who would be very near the top of the FA's shortlist to replace him.

Deano was who I was thinking of

Also, if Southgate was shifted off, I can think of someone who would be very near the top of the FA's shortlist to replace him.

Southgate has ruined Grealish. All of the edge he had for Villa has been coached out of him since breaking into the England squad. Now everything he does is so safe. He never runs with the ball and never shoots now. 

32 minutes ago, DCJonah said:

Will the report on how we handled covid last year have any impact? Or will it just be Boris did his best and Corbyn would have been worse? 

“one of the most important public health failures the United Kingdom has ever experienced”

Is a pretty strong statement. 

It'll make zero difference. The establishment gaslight of 2015-2019 that Tories are the natural party of government is now so ingrained in 40% of voters that they'll vote Tory no matter what happens.

Continuing the discussion around coastal towns where tourism is seasonal, doesn't go into the local economy and housing is largely lets or 2nd homes, I think the gradual but continuing use of tech to make commuting for the services industries redundant will sort a lot of that out. I will always work from home now and a lot of the IT industry is the same. So as soon the kids don't need to be based near to their current school I'll be doing my computer work overlooking a Cornish bay, buying a coffee from the local non chain cafe.

1 minute ago, blandy said:

When do we short circuit to the point where the people who keep undermining the leader recognise that it hasn't worked so they need to give up and do whatever it takes to get the Tories out?

(note: this applied equally during Corbyn's time as leader. Whatever individuals like you or I think of these people, looking from the outside in, Labour continually arguing amongst itself instead of focusing on being the next government is letting the tories off the hook - whether it's Owen Smith. Len McLuskey, Johm McDonnell, Diane Abbott or whoever).

Either that or just **** leave the party. 

Nobody's undermined Starmer. He's had justified criticism in the hope of getting him to do better. But he's nothing like the previous guy had with literally his own MPs campaigning for the Tories.

This time, he's floundered all by himself and his own uselessness.

But I agree, it's 2 parties in 1 that just need to split. That's what I meant with 'whatever it takes to get the Tories out'. I don't mean give the party back to the left. I mean hurry up and do the inevitable split up and create a PR pact and coalition.

When do we short circuit to the point where the people who put and keep Starmer in charge recognise that it hasn't worked so they need to give up and do whatever it takes to get the Tories out?

11 minutes ago, bickster said:

Not fake, it's been out there quite a while and never been denied

You know that bloke everyone wants to be the next Labour leader... The one that did a lot for the Hilsborough campaign...

There's plenty of evidence of this one. He's been called out for it loads of times. Absolutely nothing about Diane Abbott. I've searched far and wide and not only is there no direct evidence of it being real, there's no evidence of anyone ever knowing anything about it until yesterday. I'm still sure it's fake. Unless you remember it yourself or have a paper copy?

1 minute ago, bickster said:

She's clearly posed for a publicity photo for the Sun, which is exactly what that photo is. I think actively promoting it is actually worse than writing in it

I can't find any source. I'm pretty sure it's a fake.

8 minutes ago, ml1dch said:

How did the left of the party feel about this?

I mean...no excuses, right?

1 minute ago, HanoiVillan said:

I genuinely don't know the story behind that one . . .?

Yeah I'd love to know the back story because I'm fairly sure Abbott wouldn't ever voluntarily write for The Sun.

47 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

Saw a twitter rumour earlier that 3 Labour MP’s were considering going over to the tories.

Do you think he could be one of them?

Little bit too far to the left on spending for him.

I'm amazed Tanganga manages to see out 90 minutes with how aggressive he is. If they're fired up looking for a reaction he might be a risk for them.