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This. Was average in the championship, was always going to be poor in PL

100% agree

We'd all settle for that.

I didn't say we are ok, I said it's ridiculous to claim that 'its been obvious for months we are going down'

If only there was a system that determined the 3 worst teams so far this season.

How many have had the whole spine of the team ripped out?

My point is that certain numpties have claimed that it's been obvious for months we going down - and yet we are outside the bottom 3. Those same people have claimed that we are getting worse - The form table makes a mockery of that aswell. Luck has nothing to do with it - see above. Predictably most of the nonsense is from the same posters who have been against Smith since his arrival. Strange that.

Really? We lost our keeper. Our best and most influential defender. Our best and most influential midfielder (I consider Jack as an attacker) And our only 2 strikers meaning that we played a number of weeks without one. Nope, luck has nothing to do with it.

And yet there are 3 teams below us. If only there were a few mitigating circumstances! Oh hello, you can spot it aswell.

Don't let facts get in the way of a good moan mate.

As we currently sit outside the relegation zone how has it "been clear for months" that we are going down? Dear me..

Will we stay up.

I get your point but from memory Jack looked completely shot after an hour or so for the first few games after his return, and whilst he works hard his game isn't as much about work rate as it is with McGinn. I be surprised if he didn't get a few games in with the kids before we see him in the first team tbh.

One has scored in the PL, the other hasn't. So yes, Wes.

He was also clearly in right place 5 times. Adams has either not been in the right place once, or he can't hit a barn door. You are talking absolutely rubbish.