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yet AGAIN!! a post deleted for being part of a discussion, this thread is for comments / questions to the general ONLY! There is actually a topic in VT discussing this if you'd care to join it - Bicks

Well said General, it took Man Utd and Alex Ferguson years to win anything and longer to become consistant. A 5 year plan with MON at the helm, with all the highs and lows, is what is needed. Given time and support MON will build a formidable team at VP, I've had enough of chopping and changing managers, we've got the best so let's get behind him, sustained success will not come overnight.

Commiserations from a Jets fan :cry:

ABSOLUTE QUALITY!!!!!!!! if you listen to the track via the link, it could work ....like it mate!! but you've got far too much time on your hands lol Actually it only took me about 20mins last night...I was waiting for something to update so had a bash, I've tried to keep the sense of the original which I think was about someone half asleep half awake day dreaming. So tried to give sense of someone standing in Villa Park the Holte before a game maybe musing over the future. I think this could be OK...but then I love the original song. There's a few chants at beginning of the thread which seem really good too. I love Vindaloo for John Carew as well as Carews on Fire one What have we come up with for Ashley Young? Pretty good effort that, trouble is some of our "younger Fans" would be singing it at 200mph by the second verse! :winkold:

Is the atmosphere at the Emirates, Stamford Bridge, Old Trafford that great, is the Kop what it used to be? Whilst I agree the sheff utd game was great it was a one-off imho. Im not sure whether you experienced the Holte end in the 70's& early 80's but it was every bit as good as any bank of suport in the country. The atmosphere at those clubs isn't very good because not all the fans are as passionate about their clubs. They have the so-called 'glory hunters' at their matches. But sat anywhere other than the Holte End at VP and it sounds ly quiet. Peterborough Utd are louder when their crowd is a fraction of ours. They sit down. But they have the mentality that they are going to make as much noise as they can.

General Sir, With regard to the proposed redevelopment of the North (Fred Rinder) Stand would the club be interested in carrying out a poll amongst the fans with regard to incorporating safe terracing into the stand. If the outcome of this were a positive demand by the fans would the club then be prepared to lobby the authorities for a change in legislation? My view is that with barriers on every row and ticket only entrance to such an area that the perceived problems of the early forms of terracing would be impossible to happen again. Also for those not wishing to stand there is the option of the est46000 seats that would be available. The atmosphere in the ground would I believe be significantly enhanced by such a move.

Is the atmosphere at the Emirates, Stamford Bridge, Old Trafford that great, is the Kop what it used to be? Whilst I agree the sheff utd game was great it was a one-off imho. Im not sure whether you experienced the Holte end in the 70's& early 80's but it was every bit as good as any bank of suport in the country. The atmosphere at those clubs isn't very good because not all the fans are as passionate about their clubs. They have the so-called 'glory hunters' at their matches. But sat anywhere other than the Holte End at VP and it sounds ly quiet. Peterborough Utd are louder when their crowd is a fraction of ours. They sit down. But they have the mentality that they are going to make as much noise as they can.

It's whole lot easier to join in with the singing if you're allowed to stand up. Trust me, if you haven't experienced the atmosphere in a standing up section of fans, you've been missing out. The point is that getting a new chant started relies on the support of a few like minded people around you, the beauty of standing is that a chant can be started by a few mates who regularly meet ie stand in the same spot. It is no coincidence that the developement of songs at VP has largely stood still for the last 10seasons. If you get a chance watch the DVD from Old Trafford Villa V Everton 1975 and you will be amazed at the vocal support from the Villa fans! So if standing is the thing that makes a difference, how come other teams don't have trouble creating better atmospheres. How come there was such a good atmosphere at the Sheffield Utd game? I see your point, but singing is more about mood/desire than seating arrangements. Is the atmosphere at the Emirates, Stamford Bridge, Old Trafford that great, is the Kop what it used to be? Whilst I agree the sheff utd game was great it was a one-off imho. Im not sure whether you experienced the Holte end in the 70's& early 80's but it was every bit as good as any bank of suport in the country.

It's whole lot easier to join in with the singing if you're allowed to stand up. Trust me, if you haven't experienced the atmosphere in a standing up section of fans, you've been missing out. The point is that getting a new chant started relies on the support of a few like minded people around you, the beauty of standing is that a chant can be started by a few mates who regularly meet ie stand in the same spot. It is no coincidence that the developement of songs at VP has largely stood still for the last 10seasons. If you get a chance watch the DVD from Old Trafford Villa V Everton 1975 and you will be amazed at the vocal support from the Villa fans!

Well at least that's a suggestion - what annoys me is the people who critisise what others come up with and fail to come up with a reasonable alternative. Come on did any fancy the idea of singing a rendition of New York, New York for Dwight....Yet it soon caught on and sounded OK!! After an orchestrated campaign by George Gavin (BRMB) who penned it and played it over and over on the radio. Again as I said before, nothing will happen until the club gets involved and formerly organises something. The Dynamic that was the singing on the terraces has gone, ie groups of mates meeting in the same spot week after week. A new approach needs to be adopted. imo.

As I understand it Koumas was quoted as saying he'd "heard" "Villa were interested in him". Strikes me as being some distance from Villa actually being interested him, sounds more like his agent "flying a kite" to drum up interest in a disgruntled player.

This is also being discussed on the General thread and he was going to ask Phil Mepham to help out...but after an objection....as he quite rightly points out the club are caught between those who like the idea and those who don't like it... Like the Great new logo debate!!.....Don't get me wrong I'm not on some... we must adopt VIVA trip. I'd be happy with something else if it got everyone going! Just maddening that after all the debate last year the status quo remains. As someone else said our away support is amazing EVERYONE sings so maybe it would be an idea to try VIVA or whatever we come up with out at away games first with the club's support, to see how it goes down. What is there to lose??!!! EDIT ADDED: Just a suggestion but If anyone else wants the club to be involved with getting something sorted with VIVA or whatever.... maybe it would be an idea if they could PM the General or post on his thread. Without the club getting involved nothing will happen full stop. In the 70's the knuckledraggers had a competition and that is how the funeral march KRO was adopted as their miserable anthem.

It's amazing what you can come up with after a few pints!

I love it when we sing it but i agree it's too fast and rushed much like when we sing most of our songs, they're over too quickly. 'MON's claret & blue army' is the worst for it, it goes at break neck speed once more people start to join in and just sounds daft. We need to sing Holte Enders in the sky slowly and dragged out, same with Villa Villa Villaaa' like the old days Thats the whole idea of elevating the song to our Anthem, as soon as the fans get used to the tempo of a familiar version then it will, imo, naturally slow down. Bye the way my fault, how do we move this to the chants sticky?

:notworthy: Unfortunately not very PC, can't see 'em blasting that out over the PA ! Made me laugh though Ha Ha