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Injustice, the hardest type of result to take. 

Seething. 

United defending very well, traore has looked poor though. Hard to see where the goals will come from, Bailey has Watkins well Marshalled. 

Best game I've seen from mcginn this season, tenacious. Matt target getting better every week. 

Conflicted about him, such a vital player for us in the last 3 or 4 years. Incredible the amount of vital goals he's popped up with. The goal against small heath and play off against West brom in the playoff being particularl highlights, if not legendary certainly cult hero status. 

Saying that I don't see a role for him for us going forwards, as much as I like and respect him I think it would be better if he moved on when the time suits him. 

Have to take your hat off for Leeds, they were brilliant. Luke ayling was immense. Gutted but very impressed by Leeds. 

If konsas or grealishes efforts went in who knows but the better team won 

The league is ours to lose now.

Absolutely no reason not to go all out for the title, we've beaten the best and the best can be beaten.

Being slightly sarcastic but there's a thread of genuine belief in my words.

Who'd bet against us?

I love us

https://ibb.co/DYDgtxB

Reina was excellent I thought, love how he commands the defence. 

Well done Dean Smith, the improvement since lockdown has been immense. 

9 minutes ago, Paul33 said:

Win for West Ham is the best result, full stop, end of !

Only a win for West Ham keeps us alive if we lose to Arsenal (barely breathing BUT alive). Any other result and we are relegated on Tuesday if we lose. No brainer ..... Wet Spam all the way !

Be looking for a very favourable goal difference swing though to still be alive in that scenario. But yeah keeps us alive in theory. 

4 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

Unless you thought we need no less than 9 points, there's no way you could think it's over. 

We need to beat arsenal, be an extraordinary set of circumstances to stay up otherwise. 

1 minute ago, TRO said:

I wasn't comparing the players......just the situation of us not getting anything out of them.

Ah yeah fair enough but if be surprised if el Ghazi did well at a high level if he left us. 

3 minutes ago, TRO said:

So why are we putting up with this kind of player?......if he has not got it in him.....we should despatch him.

or is he another Traore case.....where we fail to get anything out of him, but they will do else where.

We definitely shouldn't be putting up with that type of player. 

I personally don't think he's a Traore either, hasn't got the mentality in my opinion. Technically he can do some lovely things but he didn't even look that impressive in the championship, Traore destroyed teams at that level before he honed his skills. 

Think trezeguet could be a decent player even though he's been largely crap, at least he shows the right attitude. 

1 minute ago, pintpotvilla said:

A draw in the Wham v Watford game is now the worst result for us A win either way is best

Yeah I'd be thinking man u would beat West ham so in theory at least finishing above West ham is in our hands if they lose tomorrow. But obviously could still go down with West ham in that scenario. 

7 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

We just need them to lose 1. If we win 1 that should hopefully overturn the GD. We also have to get 4 points somehow. We need West Ham to be safe on the last day.

So many permutations, so many teams would give you a headache. At least there's an outside chance. Have no idea what result we want tomorrow though. 

Have a really bad feeling Bournemouth will win their two games, two games against Southampton and Everton who have nothing to play for. 

2 minutes ago, TRO said:

Do you really think El Ghazi done his best with that cross?....players like Gray, Lochead, would have headed that in......El Ghazi pulled up, not brave enough.

I think that is El Ghazis best unfortunately. He's not got it in him to go through players like that even trezeguet I think would have put his body on the line for that and it would have been game over. 

https://youtu.be/v3Rg6F9bzhY

4 minutes ago, TRO said:

If they don't know the basics, it matters who the manager is, to ensure they do know.

If they don't know the basics they shouldn't be playing at this level, do you think Ferguson asked Roy keane to close lads down? 

Plenty of arguments against Smith, he wasn't my choice from the beginning but I think he's being unfairly fingered for all our trevails now. 

We have poor players and a manager who's incompetent /learning his trade. 

1 minute ago, Brumstopdogs said:

No they shouldn't need too but FFS they should be on his case for not learning.

The whole coaching team "seem" too nice. and the team mirrors it.

Very true I can't make my mind up fully on whether the players are more at fault or the coaching staff. Probably both. 

The fact that Brentford have gone from strength to strength since Smith left doesn't look good for him. 

I'm very thankful we have nswe at the helm right now, they don't like making bad investment long term. 

(hope they don't cut the chord) 

Just now, Brumstopdogs said:

Does Terry or Smith not show Mings footage of where he is doing well (short clip) and where he is making mistakes?

Surely any defender worth his salt woundnt need that particular mistake to be shown to him. Its either cowardly or brain dead. 

8 minutes ago, hippo said:

But thats the point - all players make mistakes, - but the manager or coach , puts a system in place to keep these mistakes to the minimum - when as you say mistakes are happening week in week in out - those systems aren't in place. 

True, I think he was naive to try play attacking football with the players he has. Major oversight, I think he learned his lesson too late. 

Edit: but there's no way you can legislate for defenders standing off strikers shooting from the edge of the box or players playing suicide balls across the square, doesn't matter what the manager or system is that's basics of defending and a lot of our players simply don't know the basics. 

Although I'm not in the Dean Smith camp and he's made plenty of mistakes I can't get over my overriding feeling from this season that has been individual mistakes, littered with them in almost every game. Even some of out "good" players namely mcginn, mings and not to mention our not so good players. Dean Smith hasn't done a good job this season but my god we've got some poor players. I find it hard to take all the blame out on him with the brain dead mistakes I've witnessed.