Bladerunner

Garbage. I'm not even sure what the tactics or formation were, there didn't appear to be any. We'll stick 4 past em at VP.........well that's what I keep telling myself.

Mellberg's beard was the star of the show. A magnificent sight.

Thought Dunne had a mare tonight. He just couldn't do right. The first goal although not his fault, he was still kicking thin air while the ball was in the back of the net. His reaction time seemed really poor. He has now started reminding me of Titus Bramble.

I might have agreed with you. But if we were after someone to just keep us up, then why did we pay so much to small heath for him and put him on ridiculous wages when Curbishley was available for free. I'm sorry, but I actually believe Randy thought he would do well here.

If this guy doesn't know, nobody does!

Name some names then. Give us your ideas on who is better. AVB and Rafa might be better, but will they realistically come here? who knows if they would come. I doubt they have even been asked, Martinez is way above Lambert IMO and so to is Quique Sanchez Flores. Rafa is a good shout but it depends on Lerners backing. Lambert is a bit meh to me and I cant say im over keen to watch his style of play. I am also concerned that defensivly Norwich were awful and conceeded a whopping 66 goals. I also find that Lambert comes across as a bit of an arse in his interviews and I can some personality clashes happening if he was to join. He reminds me of Peter Grant which is never a good thing. If Lambert joins, he'll either whip us in to some military style shape and come Christmas we'll be having a pretty solid season sat in 6th or 7th, playing as a team and with some real steel....Or, the personality clashes will be fully in motion, we'll be languishing in 19th after conceding 45 goals, halftime riots in the dressing room led by Dunne and Collins while Bent, Zog and Ireland all hand in transfer requests on the 1st of January. I just can't make my mind up about this guy.

Hutton. Heskey did at least occasionally have his uses.

I had a couple of quid on Lambert at 9/2 just as the OGS news broke tonight. He went in to 7/4 and now he's on the drift again. I just can't work out this market. I'm now beginning to think Curbishley looks an attractive price at 28/1.

The only thing that could be worse than last season....is administration. It wasn't just the flirtation with relegation, it was the garbage on the pitch we had to endure week in week out. For gods sake, give us a manger that, at the very least provides us with some entertainment. I hear you Bladerunner,the Villa faithfull hear you and Randy Lerner can hear you ,i hope. Amen to that. I don't think I could take another season of.....once a fortnight, leaving VP feeling like a broken man, only to arrive home, switch on the TV, to watch an interview of an impostor pretending to be our manager tell me that he thought we had played well. Thank god the season ended when it did. Another month of it and I'd have been in therapy.

The only thing that could be worse than last season....is administration. It wasn't just the flirtation with relegation, it was the garbage on the pitch we had to endure week in week out. For gods sake, give us a manger that, at the very least provides us with some entertainment.

The BBC football section is appalling, they can't even get the live scores right.

Bent Out.

That's good enough for me.............logs in to Betfair.

Just been looking and it seems he did sign a new 3 year contract, so we'll have to pay for him if Randy wants him. Another chance for Whelan to fleece us. Maybe all this Liverpool talk from Whelan is a smoke screen to ramp up the price for him. If there's one thing Whelan knows how to do, it's make money.

I actually think Martinez could be the big looser in all this. Since he has been allowed to speak to liverpool he has come under closer scrutinity and the media have picked up on what I have thought all along:- 1.He kept wigan up by a single goal season before last 2.Lambert and Rodgers have done better than him this season 3. Steve Bruce did better before him Every pool fan and every WBA fan doesn't want him. Much as I wish he would get the liverpool job - I sense they will find him out - just in time. I don't want him as villa boss - but the scenario could be - he doesn't land the liverpool job - so either goes back to Wigan with his tail between his legs - or makes it known he wants the Villa or WBA job. I hope its not him - but if wants the Villa job - with OGS waiting in the wings - the roles are very much reversed this time. I think the test for Lambert and Rodgers is next season. Many teams coming up do well in their first season. Jewell got Wigan to 10th in their first season and Coppell got Reading to 8th. Their respective following seasons, Wigan scraped up in 17th and Reading were relegated.

BFS :shock:

Yes but what a final 1/4. Wigan won 7 of their last 9 games and beat 3 of the top 5 in the process taking an average of 2.33 points per game. That's Champions League form. When we played them at their place they looked absolute dross, and I had them as certs to go down. You have to credit Martinez with the turn around. He changed their tactics and formation and turned them into a decent side. That's what I want here at Villa. A manger who is tactically astute, and will change things when necessary. MON and Mcleish had their set tactics and that was that. Hell, we could all set our watches by MON's substitutions. If Martinez doesn't get the Pool job, we should definitely go for him. OGS is a bit of an unknown quantity. At least Martinez has 3 years Prem management experience under his belt. Whelan sounded today like he was already reserved to losing him. I think we should test the water again. On a side note, looking at that final 1/4 table, it makes me wonder how the hell we managed to stay up. Out of our last 10 games, we won none, failed to score in 5 of them, and gained an almighty 1/2 a point average per game. I just hope to god Randy gets it right this time. I don't think I could cope with another season like the last one. Martinez for me. CS=Clean sheets FtS=Failed to score PPG=Points per game

I can see Norwich playing real hardball for Lambert. They are on a high after a 12th place finish on their first season back up. They'll want to keep as many of their playing and management staff as possible and may just point blank refuse to let us speak to Lambert. Whereas Whelan seems willing to deal with anybody if the price is right.

I think Lambert's odds have come in for us due to a flood of money on Martinez for the Pool job. But I actually think Lambert might be more suited to the Pool job than Martinez.