MessiWillSignForVilla

9 minutes ago, tomav84 said:

i meant in tests vs tier 1 nations they've done nothing till this year. never gotten out of the pools at the WC. i'm not knocking them, i just think trying to shoehorn them into the 6 nations isn't the way forward

do we need annual test matches between england and australia/SA/NZ? maybe the way to grow the game is to have more games vs the likes of georgia in the autumn. but then twickenham doesn't sell out tickets at £150 a pop vs georgia does it...

I feel this is often overlooked when discussing Georgia, and it's forgotten that Italy weren't allowed to join the 5 Nations just because they were best of the rest, between 95-99 they record wins against Ireland (x3), Argentina* (x2), France and Scotland, they got invited because they started regularly beating T1 nations (not sure if Argentina would've counted as T1 at the time however).

If Georgia can continue this and get a few more wins, then it might be worth adding them to an expanded 6 Nations.

56 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said:

A few things in my opinion -

Outspoken about racism/taking the knee/ general societal issues. “Virtue signalling woke nonsense, innit.”

His mistakes receive extra attention as a result - “I see that gobshite Mings ****ed up again.”

Because good defensive play doesn’t create quite the same must watch YouTube compilation material, any good moments or games don’t receive as much attention. His detractors on here who watch games will typically acknowledge when he’s played well. Supporters from other clubs probably don’t watch all our games and so only see the highlights (or lowlights).

Some lingering bad feeling about stamping (fwiw, I felt and still feel both incidents were accidental, particularly the Reading one).

Kinda intangible this, but some players do seem to have fans against them from the outset. Owen Hargreaves had England fans jeering him when he was brought on for no particular reason. Certainly nothing that justified the reaction. Tom Cleverley had similar. Now those two weren’t outspoken, both were fairly inoffensive. But particularly when they were called up for international duty, there was a sort of “Why the **** are you here? Who the **** are you? Piss off.” vibe from supporters.

Funnily enough when Utd fans froth over how much of a thug he is for that (which I also think was accidental btw), they forget to mention that Ibrahimovic just elbowed him in the head for no reason earlier in that game.

Whilst I agree with most of your post, I think the Ibrahimovic incident is where it basically all stems from, ever since Utd and Ibrahimovic fans, and to an extent other Top 6 fans, have tripped over themselves to declare that Mings is a talentless thug despite clearly never watching him play, and the sheer volume of those comments has steered public opinion, you hear he's a clearing in the woods enough times without seeing him play you end up just believing it.

8 minutes ago, KentVillan said:

Seems to be going incredibly badly wrong

The follow up tweets that state why are insane

How are the employees gonna sabotage it, by improving the site instead of gutting it?

1 hour ago, Genie said:

Does anyone know what the “reasons” are for which Max mentioned? Are they common knowledge, or is he referring to a private conversation?

There's supposedly an accusation that Checo crashed in Monaco on purpose to secure P3 in qualifying.

Olsen is diving like Dad's do when they concede their toddler's shot.

Clever, albeit risky, defending from Mings, just enough to put Rashford off balance

3 minutes ago, Davkaus said:

How many red cards does he need before he learns to take a breath and not escalate things and go head to head? He does it all the **** time, he's a liability

Well he's only had one straight red his entire career, so two?

8 hours ago, DeadlyDirk said:

 

"The bottom line is that if you were asking me now - and in fact even if you'd asked me maybe a year after events - then I would certainly have stayed on at the football club and pushed on," revealed O'Neill.

Of course you would, you realised no-one else would touch you with a ten foot barge pole. Prick.

Haha, Hendrie barely talking on comms now, you can tell he's played in these games a few times!

Just now, jjaacckk91 said:

I've seen some questionable ref performances over the years, but I'm confident this guy has been paid off.

After the "You won't win anything with kids" game the FA struck a deal with Utd to never let them lose at VP again

Shit, hope that's not the knee he did at Bournemouth

You've got to pass that there Bailey!

2 minutes ago, MessiWillSignForVilla said:

I feel horrible, we could be battering these 10-0 and I'd be convinced they could come back 10-11.

At least it's good to feel something about Villa again though

Shouldn't have said anything 

I feel horrible, we could be battering these 10-0 and I'd be convinced they could come back 10-11.

At least it's good to feel something about Villa again though

2 hours ago, MWARLEY2 said:

According to Norwich he was shit and did nothing other than score a tap in

I get the feeling that Norwich fans are a little entitled and expect to walk the Championship whenever they get relegated, anything less is terrible.

12 minutes ago, a-k said:

Bad angle. When I saw the replay on the live feed from the other angle, it looked like KDB was trying to do a turn but got a clear kick to the back of the Achilles, and that's why KDB he only went down "late"

It's a great example of why players dive, no way he gets a penalty if he doesn't go down even though he was blatantly kicked by Robinson.

I'm not normally one for the whole you can't criticise someone who's better than you argument, and I get this is TalkSport's schtick, but who the **** are Jermaine Pennant and Jamie O'Hara to be debating whether Pique is one of the greatest defenders ever!?

Personally I would probably say he isn't, but to be so dismissive of it is ridiculous, you make the argument by saying he's not as good as Maldini or Nesta or Barini or Beckenbauer or Moore or McGrath and so on, not by just going "yeah well he played with good players", then how come both of you looked so shit?

15 minutes ago, LondonLax said:

It wasn’t losing a billion a year when he bought it, it’s losing a billion a year because he bought it. The billion a year figure is just the interest payments owed each year on the loans he took out

It wasn’t profitable before but it wasn’t costing this much. And that’s before the advertisers got spooked and fled. 

A lot of the debt is secured against his Tesla stock. 

Have a look at what has happened to the Tesla stock price since the Twitter sale went through
 

Oh I know, but that's the elephant in the room with Musk justification for sacking so much staff, that's why I was laughing at it. He'd rather people believe he sunk $44bn into a company that was losing $1.2bn per year instead of realising that his purchase increased Twitter's losses by $1bn per year. Either way, it doesn't make him look like a great businessman!

There is an argument that Twitter was just about to reach profitability before the pandemic as it had two profit making years in a row, the only ones in their history, but it's hard to say how much the pandemic truly effected them and whether they would bounce back from it, but as with all tech companies, it was massively overinflated in price when Musk made the offer to buy it, so even then it wasn't really worth it.

1 minute ago, CVByrne said:

This is the issue, you can't comment on something without it being labelled an extreme thing. Outrage, Toxic, whatever extreme adjective you want. That's what social media (VT included obviously) is. Nobody actually speaks like that to other people in real life.

If I knew someone that everytime I saw them down the pub they were moaning about things being too woke I would absolutely say they were outraged by it.

Outrage isn't a new word, it's been a word used to descrive the hyperbole used by the likes of the Mail my entire life that I've heard plenty of people use in real life.

Just now, CVByrne said:

Wow, commenting on something is now "outraged". You're kinda just proving my point. Everything has to be an extremism. Your response proves my point totally.

I think you're outraged by it because it's a common theme among a lot of your posts, you talk about how much you hate "wokeism" all the time.

1 hour ago, CVByrne said:

People fawning over this type of stuff. 

The irony of this being that you are so outraged by "extreme wokeness" and clearly don't understand what "wokeness" is that you don't realise that people who would actually claim to be woke would find this example of someone pretending to be disabled when they aren't to be itself extremely offensive and ableist , so much so it looks more like an attempt at anti-woke "comedy" that you've fell for rather than an actual real example.

Edit: Wait this is the Twitter thread, lol at Musk saying he had to cut jobs because Twitter is losing $1bn+ a year,  why spend $44bn on it then