Shoody

Cant see Gardner getting a start. He might come on on about 85 minutes for Young though so he can get his standing ovation.

Out with the Old in with the New and all that.

Agreed. I dont even know why people are talking about it. He's not going anywhere and he's a good goal scorer. This thread has been on repeat since January and its bloody tiring.

Its been denied by City on SSN anyway

Swindon Town are understood to be on the verge of naming Paulo Di Canio as their new manager.

The Robins suffered relegation out of League One in 2010/11 and will begin next season in the fourth tier.

A summer rebuild at the County Ground was expected and the changes look like they will start in the dugout.

Di Canio hinted on Wednesday that he expected to complete a return to English football in the next few days, seven years after bringing to an end a Premier League career which took in spells at Sheffield Wednesday, West Ham and Charlton.

Pride

The Italian said at the time: "In the next few days something will happen, perhaps in an inferior division.

"English football is loyal, full of pride and I believe I'm close to returning to England. It is the country that I most love from a football standpoint."

The 'inferior division' of which he speaks looks like being League Two, as Swindon prepare to hand him their managerial reins.

The Robins have been in the market for a new coach since severing ties with Paul Hart on 28th April, the man who came up short in the club's quest to beat the drop.

On SSN.

Think you'll find God's meant to be ending the world tomorrow not Monday. Maybe he's a blues fan who wants to make sure they die a PL club?

I'd prefer it if at any point Birmingham slip into the bottom 3 this gets played on the Jumboscreen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAE209K62rQ

Still think things like this will work much better when One purchase gets you access on many different varieties of media (phone, tablet, computer) and its updated much more often

£30 is a good price but when you only get 4 updates a year, I wouldnt be interested. And would likely forget all about it

Im sure City fans hate one of the K's I just cant remember if its Kolorov or Kompany.

Anyway, because he's English. They need as many Homegrowns as possible so taking the best ones is always a good option. Like you say Kolorov is just as good but not really any better. So might as well have Baines and fill a Home-grown spot whilst they are at it.

Baines has been heavily linked witha £20-25m move to City this summer.

Man City. Ruining my dreams since summer '09.

part of me thinks it should be the best man for the job part of me thinks that he should be english

then another part of me knows for a fact that regardless of who it is the media will slaughter him and he'll pick out of form utd players for every squad and ill get bored of england all over again

If theres one season not to say this about England. It's this one, considering that it was instead the media have slaughtered him and he's picked out of form ex and current Villa players for every squad.

In the Premier League we had the Top 4:

Man U

Liverpool

Arsenal

Chelsea

At international level we have the Top 9:

England

Argentina & Brazil

France & Italy

Germany & Holland

Spain & Portugal

We are the only nation in the Top 9 to have a foreign manager.

The big footballing nations don't appoint foreign managers.

We should adopt this policy.

Again. It's the FA's fault. And not because they dont choose English managers. It's their fault that theres never (apart from now with 'Arry) a strong English candidate in the first place.

Harry will be the next English manager - the media will rave about it - but we should really be asking that the biggest job in the country only has one real candidate.

Its because coaching in this country is shit.

Yeah Redknapp is the best candidate for the job. Id say its nailed on he'll be next England manager. The media would go batshit if anybody else got it. He's a good manager and he's English. Ticks all the boxes.

But for me. In general (not just this time round) I dont care if the guy is English and I never understood all the push for an English manager. It ended up with McClaren last time.

Hughes would be the most boring manager we could appoint. We might as well label our club as "The Void" if that happens.

Strange day.

Steve agreeing with SGC.

Me agreeing with OnlyOne.

Warnock I think

Also.

I would rather try and fail with an Englishman than succeed with a foreigner in charge.

There's no pride in winning with a foreign manager in charge.

If we won the World Cup with a former bongo player who is German but was born and raised in Timbuktu and got the job by winning his national lottery. I wouldnt care at all. I would be ecstatic.

edit: double post

I take it only me and you have voted so far

As soon as he hits 20 goals next season he's the best striker we've had in a long long time.

If either Wigan or Blackpool get a point and Blues lose then Blues go down

I dunno, you say that no foreign teams seek our management but they don't seek our players either.

English players don't play abroad.

English managers don't manage abroad.

Foreign players play in England though.

1) Wages

2) English teams have to have a certain number of Homegrown Players

3) Wages

4) Wages

5) Wages

I think Abramovic could have been tempted by Harry yes. But who else is there that is truly good enough?

Avram got it because he was already at the club and the players liked him. He was runner up in 3 cups for them. It wasnt exactly a disaster and he was only there for a bit as a stop-gap was he not?

Coyle could be a good bet for Arsenal in the future. But no I cant see it.. again because not really any British managers suit their style of play. Again. not Arsenals fault.

Man U is the biggest management job going It will go to the best manager in the world at that time. Many would say that is Mourinho. If Mourinho was British it would still go to him.

And if barely any Englishmen have managed in the CL.. does that not tell you something about the state of coaching in the UK? that no Foreign teams seek our management either? We get many foreign managers but we're talking here that one of the biggest footballing nations can barely put somebody in a managerial position that can succeed? Is it more that no teams will give a chance to the poor Englishmen? or is it just that by and large our Style of Play and quality of coaching is just not good enough for teams on the European stage?

Just seen Trents red bits on the Houllier thread so C&P'd my reply to TRS-T's above post here. Mods can delete it from the other thread if you like

Yes Sam did get lamabasted for saying he could manager the best clubs in Europe and win the double every year. He had the piss taken out of him from pretty much every angle.

Ferguson was quite obviously a great manager having won things with Aberdeen already.

To be considered a manager good enough to make the step up. You could get a top job without winning things with your club. You just need to excel at the club you are at. If you take over Fulham or Blackburn and get them mid-table. Then you've just done as expected, that isnt 'great' management. Thats just 'average' management. It isnt over-performing. If you are a great manager at a small club, they will over-perform for their standard.

Again, pointing to Villas Boas at the team he was at last year. A certainty for Relegation - they got midtable and did very well in the cups. So he was given a chance. A British example (forgetting his history for a minute as it was a long time ago). Hodgson did great with Fulham in Europe so was given a chance at Liverpool.

Yes. You wont win things unless you have a top club. But you get to a top club by being an exceptional manager with what you do have.

Owen Coyle did an exceptional job at Burnley and now he is over-performing with Bolton, he's still growing into management as his drubbing at Stoke in the FA Cup showed, but give it another season or two and if he is still performing like this he will make the step up. Probably to Us, Everton or Spurs (the next logical step-up). He is out-performing what is expected of his team and is therefore a good manager. Not quite ready just yet as i said he's still growing.

Paul Lambert is another. He absolutely outclassed Norwich beating them 7-1 or something ridiculous and then took that job. Out-performed and had them promoted two seasons on the trot. He is out-performing what would have been expected of Norwich by getting automatic promotion to the Prem when last season they were League 1. Again, he is not ready to make the step-up to manage a club going for Europe. In a season or two he will make a step up, then after that another step up etc etc etc.

Yes, some managers are given a big job sometimes because they used to be a great player for that team. But I urge you to look at all the management histories of these managers you mention as I'm certain that for the most part they worked their way up.

There are only a few British managers out-performing with what they have. Coyle and Lambert the closest to making the step up but are still maybe not quite ready. And would be a gamble given the hectic season we have had. You become a great manager by being consistently great. If Fat Sam was a manager good enough to manage Madrid etc then he would have done VERY **** well with Blackburn and Newcastle etc. He didnt. He did okay, he got them mid-table and he bored the **** out of all the fans whilst doing so. He isn't good enough. McClaren was given a chance at England and **** it up. etc etc.

You get the big jobs by doing exceptional at the smaller ones. Not enough British Managers are. Theres no racism or prejudice in it. There just arent enough managers ready to make the step up. I'd even suggest the ones that are there-or-there abouts (Moyes) would maybe not be good enough for the bigger jobs, glas-ceiling and all that. But we'll see.

edit: okay just re-read your post and seen you pretty much say what i say. But I would still say there are just not enough managers ready to make the step up. Maybe Moyes is but after that theres nobody really there.

Hodgson probably wont get a chance at a big club again. Harry could do well at a big club but will go to England. Moyes, possibly ready would be a leap of faith for a big club to hire him.

Then who? There isnt really anybody there setting the world alight. Coyle + Lambert but they need time to grow as managers and prove themselves consstently in the prem before being given a chance.

Theres a big gap in English management and its not the big clubs' fault. Its the FA's.

also still stand by my point that if Sam, McClaren etc were good enough theyd have performed much better with what they had

£7m would be a steal, I'd expect him to go for £10m because of the number of clubs interested. With a few of them probably having money to spend.