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They are illegal to use in public places in the UK.

How do you know? The ref can choose to ignore what VAR says, just like the other assistants.

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Agreed. And that's why we talk about Trump. If it's found that Epstein did anything like that, then it belongs in this thread. It might belong in this thread now if we knew about Epstein's political goals.

Yes, absolutely and that's why I'm asking for arguments. But without knowing what those goals were it's simply speculation that they even exist.

Epstein was a chancer who courted the rich and powerful to provide a veneer of authenticity. So what were his political goals?

Make that case then. You didn't mention parties at all. Epstein knew a lot of people from all walks of life. Politicians, not politics. What activities? Be sure not to confuse correlation with causation. So does anything (everything) a politician says or does. That doesn't mean that everything they do is about politics. I'm not posting as a mod or this would be in red and you'd have been warned for commenting on moderation Demonstrate that anything Epstein did was political and that would go in this thread.

So, nothing to do with politics, just random ad hominems against politicians?

Unless you can link it to US politics, it would be off topic in this thread.

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