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  1. 8 points
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  3. 8 points
    Its shocking. This virus has really flagged the moral bankruptcy we have as a society, and perhaps no surprise Football is one of the worst culprits. I am afraid Grealish's indiscretion, and Levy's sentiment and thought process symbolises that most on the Football gravy train are detached from reality that the rest of society is living. The fact that that some premier league teams are exploiting the government support which all of tax paying society will end up re-paying, and others will suffer due to the inevitable post-event austerity which wont affect anyone in the Premier League just exemplifies how rotten it all is. If my club takes the same route without the management/playing staff taking a substantial cut I will never patronise it while the management remains. The fact that playing out the season is even being considered is crazy, this problem isn't going away and will take months and months to calm down and even then it wont be over. At a time when only last week I developed a slight cough and with knowledge that our local hospital is full and already making decisions on who gets the respirators, had a sleepless night worrying how my family would lose their home and cope without my income, and did I have time to write a will as I am unmarried and a father of three young kids - how can football consider playing behind closed doors when the Government and by proxy society it imploring social distancing as the example of how we are going to beat this - how will you play a sport and remain 2m's away from the next person. Madness, and in bad taste too.
  4. 8 points
    I would argue that if Labour were criticising the Tories at every point in this situation, they would be hammered for politicising a crisis etc etc.
  5. 7 points
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  7. 7 points
    My favourite part of the article... "We may be the eighth largest club in the world by revenue, according to the Deloitte survey, but all that historical data is totally irrelevant as this virus has no boundaries." - Daniel Levy The guy is an utter prick.
  8. 6 points
    One item was a ride on lawnmower that runs on red diesel. I haven’t even got a lawn.
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  10. 6 points
    Switzerland has more deaths per million people than the U.K. , yet you determine them to be doing well ? I don’t think you can really determine who has done “well” until this is all over tbh , countries are at different stages in the infection , countries are testing differently I.e Germany is testing just about everyone v other countries only testing the seriously ill , giving skewed figures of case fatality rates (UK) v infection fatality rates (Germany) We seem to be looking at graphs like it’s the premier league table !! there is no doubt the UK have failed in regards to testing and other areas but comparing the UK to Iceland Isn’t really a particularly helpful one imo
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  12. 6 points
    Whilst we’re on the subject of Daniel Levy, how/why the hell does a PL Chairman earn £7m, particularly given that £3m of this was a bonus for completing their new stadium which was months late!! How much would he have got if they’d finished it on time? Additionally they are paying this guy eyewatering money to run, in my opinion, a failing football club. I say failing because whilst they may be successful on the balance sheet, when did they last win anything? I’m not blind to the fact that we live in a world that needs money, but football is a unique business where success and failure is judged on the pitch and not in the boardroom. At least it should be, Levy was recently boasting that Spurs are the eighth richest club in the world, who cares? Perhaps we should hold board meetings on the pitch in front of the fans, while the players have a kick around in the park? Football has completely lost it’s way at the top level. We boast that the PL is the richest in the world, again so what? For most clubs the only competition they enter every year is to stay in the competition. A few have ambitions to finish fourth and value that higher than lifting either the FA or League Cup. In fact we have talked ourselves in to not even being bothered if we have cup competitions. We have all been brainwashed by greedy broadcasters, greedy administrators, greedy clubs and ultimately greedy footballers and their agents. The excitement of winning a trophy has been taken away from us. The fans need to reclaim the game, but we won’t or can’t because we’re no longer relevant. Followers on Facebook and the like have replaced fans at the ground. When I was a kid, (I’m 57), we used to argue as to if we would rather win the League or FA Cup, such was the excitement of an FA Cup final. Now we’d rather finish 4th or 17th than win the oldest and greatest cup competition in the world. Don’t get me started on the ridiculously named Champions League.
  13. 5 points
    Fingers crossed more follow suit. https://www.ad.nl/buitenlands-voetbal/belgische-competitie-per-direct-stopgezet-club-brugge-kampioen~a6ec97f8/
  14. 5 points
    Fair to be honest. I am working from home currently and I presume the neighbour is too, their chihuahua or shitsu or whatever the **** it is has been yapping not stop for 10 days. I give it another 4 days before I hop the fence and punt it into the next postcode.
  15. 5 points
    Take the captaincy off him and give it to Mings.
  16. 5 points
    I like to think when this is over fans will see through the Premier League crap and start going back to community clubs and that Premier League is not the be all and end all as people think. Let Levy rot in his fancy new stadium
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  18. 4 points
    Corona took someone i know today. First person i know to die of it, hope it's the last, 55 years old.
  19. 4 points
    saw My neighbour yesterday and she asked how my wife was , I said she’s in the garden ... my neighbour said , oh I can’t see her .. I said “you need to dig down a few feet “
  20. 4 points
    So I guess the real question is how many people in the UK are currently dying? Did 1500 people die today as would be the average? Or did 1500 + 569 die, meaning a total of 2069 deaths being out of the ordinary.
  21. 4 points
    It won't be as easy for the English league to do as is being done in Belgium, if we were to just promote Leeds and Albion based on an incomplete season then the likes of Fulham would make a big deal about it, just deciding that they won't be promoted based on an incomplete season would be no better than relegating us based on an incomplete season.
  22. 4 points
    Belgian league takes a sensible, pragmatic step. Good on them for not relegating but choosing rather to expand the league next season.
  23. 4 points
    I could kind of understand Boris's first communications instructing us (softly) to begin social distancing. I kind of understood why the message was progressively more "hard" as the days went by.. After all, you'd think an instruction like "stay away from others" is relatively simple to follow. I didn't understand why football matches went on as long as they did (about 2/3 weeks too long), I certainly knew that Cheltenham was a very silly idea, but it all got shut down in the end.. I still really don't understand why (after saying for about 3 weeks now) we're not seeing a huge increase in ventilators, despite factories changing their products to making ventilators. I really don't understand why (like Germany) we're not testing anyone who has felt ill at any point in the last 2 months (I had one evening where I had flu like symptoms and my wife caught that from me and felt ill for about 10 days) - this should have been an absolute priority and any data currently out there is heavily skewed because we're only testing people we already assume have the virus? Of course the figures will look terrible if you test people you think have it. Why have we not increased the volume of testing and made it clear who should be going to IKEA or wherever these testing drive-thru's are? I've seen that NHS staff should be tested - I'm not front line (at all), but I have an NHS badge, so do the cleaners and admin staff on site in separate buildings to the actual hospital - should we be getting tested? We're still at the point where there's no clarity at all as to what we're meant to be doing - apart from, isolate and only come into hospital if you've gone through 112 and are nearly dead. So while I think that it's nice Boris treated us like the adults we are, it's not so nice now that it appears we're reaching the apex of this problem in a couple of weeks with a lot of unanswered questions. I know this is an ever-evolving target, and new information on how to fight this virus is coming out daily from different parts of the world (MIT in the States now says 6m distance), but we've got to be more clear! Look at just how many streams of communication we have now.. I don't know, maybe that's half the problem, but it needs sorting - LAST MONTH.
  24. 4 points
    I’d love to believe this will lead to real change, but it won’t. 10 minutes on Twitter will show you, he could stick ‘we’ll get Covid done in 12 weeks’ on the side of a bus and half the country would still believe it.
  25. 4 points
    via the athletic, Matt Slater: Several leading sports lawyers have raised serious doubts about the implications of extending the season beyond June 30, with one lawyer saying it is simply “not realistic”, while another said the situation would be an “absolute nightmare”. The crisis caused by the coronavirus pandemic is, of course, bigger than football or any other sport, but that does not mean the professional game is not dealing with significant and unprecedented challenges. One of the most complicated issues is how to finish the current season in Europe, where many players’ contracts expire on June 30, a hard deadline to end one season and start another that nobody expected would be forced to move. But that is the predicament facing administrators, clubs, leagues and players as they try to work out how to preserve the integrity of their competitions, as well as satisfy their various broadcast and commercial contracts, assuming their respective governments let them do so. “If the season is to be extended beyond June 30, clubs are going to want to extend some of their expiring contracts, but they are unlikely to want to hand out new three-year deals, so they are very likely to be short-term deals,” says Nick De Marco QC, a barrister with Blackstone Chambers. “But this presents a perennial problem for players: if you get injured while playing on a short-term contract, you could find yourself without a job. Now, it makes sense for all parties to negotiate and find a way through this, but it is not required for players to agree to these short-term extensions under English law.” Dan Lowen, a sports contract specialist at London-based law firm Level, agrees with De Marco. “Some with expiring contracts may be delighted to be paid by their clubs for a few more weeks or months, but others will refuse to accept any extension as they won’t want to jeopardise a long-term or better contract with a new club,” says Lowen. A working group set up by world football’s governing body FIFA to look at the regulatory issues posed by the pandemic has recently sent a report to the game’s stakeholders. In this report, which The Athletic has seen, FIFA says the “three core matters” that must be addressed are expiring contracts, the “appropriate timing” for the next transfer window (currently scheduled to open on July 1) and “frustrated” agreements that can no longer be fulfilled because of the COVID-19 outbreak. The concept of frustration exists in common law systems, like England’s, and civil law systems, such as Switzerland’s, where FIFA is based. In simple terms, it says contracts can be set aside if an unforeseen event makes it impossible for the contract to be fulfilled. This is particularly significant now that clubs are unable to provide their coaches, players and non-playing staff with work, and may be struggling to pay them. As a result, clubs have been persuading their employees to take pay cuts or defer wages until life returns to normal, with players at Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Juventus among those who have accepted cuts. So far, only a handful of teams in England and Scotland have agree to do likewise, although Newcastle United, Norwich City, Bournemouth and Tottenham Hotspur have become the first Premier League clubs to take advantage of a government-backed scheme to furlough their non-playing staff. This means these employees will be paid 80 per cent of their usual salaries, up to a maximum of £2,500 a month, out of the public purse — a controversial move for companies who employ millionaires. FIFA can only provide general guidance on these matters and its proposal is that “clubs and employees (players and coaches) be encouraged to work together to agree on deferral and/or reduction of salary by a reasonable amount for any period of the stoppage”. The English Football League, Premier League and Professional Footballers’ Association met on Wednesday in attempt to reach a united position and it is expected that English-based players will agree to defer a proportion of their wages. That is certainly the hope of global players’ union FIFPro, whose secretary general Jonas Baer-Hoffmann told reporters on Tuesday he hoped the various contractual issues could be resolved “collectively, with the right will on both sides”. But, presumably as an example of the wrong will, he also highlighted the example of seven-time Slovakian champions MSK Zilina, who became the first European club to start liquidation proceedings after the start of the coronavirus crisis on Monday when 17 of their first-team players refused to accept an 80 per cent pay cut. This is clearly an extreme example, but it highlights how difficult it can be to find common ground or a way through the crisis. As Lowen points out, the situation in the England, particularly at several of the Premier League’s top clubs, is further complicated by the fact many player contracts are now “heavily skewed towards incentives” or bonuses. “In normal times, these contingent payments are seen as a win-win because the clubs recognise that they gain if a player meets these targets,” he says. “If the season is cancelled, players will not receive these bonuses, some of which they could have reasonably expected to have received. In those circumstances, should they also agree to cut or defer their basic salaries? “There is often a difficult tension between the regulatory and legal spheres in global sports and this crisis is shining a bright light on that. FIFA is in a tough spot because it has 211 member associations: each one of those may have a slightly different approach to the regulations around contracts and will have different legal frameworks in which those contracts exist.” A good example of this is how an English court might interpret a contract expiring on June 30 versus a court elsewhere in Europe, and it is based on the concept of “contractual intention”. “In England, it is based on what an objective bystander would reasonably consider the intention of the contract to be,” explains De Marco. “In this case, the fact the contracts say June 30, it would be reasonable to assume that is what was intended. But under civil law, you look more at the subjective interpretation of intention. So, for example, if you had evidence to suggest the parties to the contract actually meant ‘until the end of the season’, you could more easily extend it.” Some experts have suggested football needs to look again at its player contracts, as they do not contain “force majeure” clauses that guard against unforeseen circumstances. “They are common in other sports contracts,” says Dan Chapman, head of the sports and employment teams at Leathes Prior, a law firm in East Anglia. “For example, the last race of the season in Formula One is scheduled for Abu Dhabi but the sport has had to cancel and reschedule races before. This is reflected in the drivers’ contracts, which have more flexibility. “Football contracts, on the other hand, really aren’t very sophisticated and I wonder if this is something we should look at after the crisis. If you’re (Birmingham City’s) Jude Bellingham, just to pick one example, are you really going to want to play a few more games in the Championship this summer if you already have a move to Borussia Dortmund or Manchester United lined up? “I don’t think extending the season for months is realistic or possible from a legal point of view. I can’t see players agreeing to short-term extensions if they know they’re going to be cramming games in before facing a quick turnaround for another long season. The risk of injury will only be increased.” De Marco, however, is not so convinced that football contracts can or will be changed as a result of the crisis. “Football contracts are not like most employment contracts for good reason,” he says. “First, they are the product of years of collective bargaining between the clubs, players’ unions and the governing bodies, so they cannot be altered without consultation. “Second, they are fixed-term contracts, so players cannot just be made redundant or dismissed on notice because there is no work for them. And there are no force majeure clauses in them because of the highly specific nature of the industry. “A Liverpool player cannot just hand in his notice and join Arsenal in the same way most of us can move to new companies. This is because of the integrity and team stability issues this would pose for football competitions, but it is a fundamental restraint of trade. Therefore it is only fair that players get something in return. “Force majeure clauses might seem reasonable to some but most players only get two or three good contracts in their lifetime: is it fair that those contracts could be ripped up for something that is completely beyond their control?” Lowen believes one possible way out of the legal minefield is to relax FIFA’s ban on pre-contract agreements between clubs in the same country. Under the current rules, players can sign pre-contracts with clubs abroad, as Aaron Ramsey did when he left Arsenal for Juve. “One way of potentially allaying players’ concerns would be for national associations to allow players to do this now for moves within national borders,” says Lowen. “This could, however, lead to potential issues with the integrity of the competition, as players could face their future employers in the final matches of the season. But signing a pre-contract would in theory give players a degree of protection against the risks and impact of a bad injury.” Daniel Geey, a sports lawyer at Sheridans, raises another potential headache for clubs and players. “What happens if a player is out of contract on July 1 but cannot be employed or registered by another club until the new season starts because the transfer window has moved? That’s a restraint of trade,” says Geey. “And then there will be other players who will only sign extended contracts if they are rewarded for the added risk of injury. That is why I can imagine some clubs would simply decide to play on with a smaller squad. “My gut feeling is the clubs will have enough players to finish the season without dishing out lots of short-term deals, although this will clearly lead to some questions about the integrity of the competition. Watford are a good potential example as Heurelho Gomes and Ben Foster are out of contract. That is a good prisoner’s dilemma for them as they wonder if they should re-sign or not.” Another lawyer, who wished to remain anonymous, said all these issues amounted to the “absolute nightmare” mentioned above and it is why he believes the game will reach a “tipping point” in the coming weeks and realise the season cannot be completed. He said he thought the leaders in each league would be awarded the respective titles, the current Premier League table would decide the European places, the top two in the Championship, League One and League Two would be promoted and there would be no relegation. The divisions would then be readjusted over the coming seasons. “Somebody will try to sue the leagues but I think it will be a case of the path of least resistance and I’m sure a settlement can be reached with the broadcasters,” he said.
  26. 4 points
    Levy probably thinks the best way to stop the virus is as simple as negotiating a transfer. He is willling to offer Josh Onomah as a sacrifice
  27. 4 points
    In reply to my own post in the things that pee you off thread. My Trust are now in contract. If they had slipped out, they'd have been paying £10k per day more in utility bills. Now I have saved them £750k-£1.2m per year, for 5 years. Not me exclusively, but a large part of it, from the recommendation, to the completion was down to me. I haven't had a thanks from the trust yet, and I don't expect one, but the relief when I found out was palpable. Atlas's stone has been put down. Now we've changed the entire paymech, so I have to get my head round that now.. Onto other things, just not procurement! Hahaha Sorry for my moan, but I needed that last night.
  28. 3 points
    If you haven't already seen it, then I strongly recommend Manchester by the Sea. One of the finest pieces of acting I've seen. Achingly moving.
  29. 3 points
    I'd consider a fleshlight to be an essential purchase.
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  31. 3 points
    Statistically, it should be getting easier to find a parking space at the golf club after this.
  32. 3 points
    I love how people say "take the captaincy off him" like the captaincy means a damn thing. They call heads or tails before a game and wear an armband. It means jack shit (no pun intended). A leader is a leader whether they are "captain" or not.
  33. 3 points
    You spent the last 6 months telling everyone how he isn't as good as everyone thinks.
  34. 3 points
    Eddie Large (78) of Little and Large fame. Coronavirus.
  35. 3 points
    I was never really a fan of what followed this debut album but this will always be a great record Reminds me a lot of those heady days when I was resitting my A Levels and waiting to go to Uni Lloyd Cole and the Commotions - Rattlesnakes
  36. 3 points
    As the owner of a shihtsu this last page has triggered me greatly. words removed.
  37. 3 points
    Last night me and the Mrs were going to have lasagne but she didn't want to wait the 50 mins as we'd left it a bit late. I said I'd stick some sausages in the oven for sausage butties. 35 mins later we somehow ended up here
  38. 3 points
    By the time the next election comes around, the focus will have moved on to how we're going to pay for all of this and there will be a massive corporate effort to make sure that bill is socialised. There's no way we'll see anything but a business/bank friendly government elected on the back of a huge media push.
  39. 3 points
    For context, Chamberlain's popularity was just below 70% at the time he was forced to resign.
  40. 3 points
    Surprised certain posters didn't blame Smith for it, his coaching led to his bad driving
  41. 3 points
    At least fans took a break from the Dean Smith thread for a few days
  42. 3 points
    Fountains of Wayne were excellent. Great power pop band, but also Schlesinger was a phenomenal songwriter. Recently he did the music to the excellent comedy Crazy Ex Girlfriend. He was one of my favourite songwriters.
  43. 3 points
    Essentially dry-clean only, iron cool. On a related note, those symbols were created and are owned by a French company. All brands are required to use the symbols in their products and, by default, are required to pay a licence fee to the French company. A legalised racket.
  44. 3 points
    Many things have been touched on on here and far more serious granted....but the one that gets me, is mixing with McCormack.I honestly thought he had more sense than that. If he gone to a birds house and got a bit carried away, I would have cut him a tad more slack, but McCormack, you couldn't make it up. It makes you wonder if he was set up.
  45. 2 points
    I am Moron. The Lovely Eggs. Oh yes!
  46. 2 points
    I would need very surprised if a coroner looked at someone who had been killed in a car accident and would note anywhere of any relevance that they had the virus. They may record it as a statement of fact of the circumstances/health of the individual, but if the thing that killed you was your brain going from 70 to 0 within a second and head smashing through the steering wheel, it's not really relevant whether you had the virus or not. And anyone collating the stats that's noting that as a death relevant to Covid-19 is an idiot. It's only relevant insofar as being able to measure the spread. Whereas if the disease is contributing to a death, that would absolutely be noted and counted, as it's relevant to that death.
  47. 2 points
  48. 2 points
    Not sure this is a reasonable reason to leave the house these days without a police drone descending.
  49. 2 points
    Wooo! I really want this season to be voided. It makes total sense to just void it and if you have to, promote the top two in each decision, then the season after just relegate a few more to restore the balance. The situation with contracts will get ridiculous otherwise. I don't really care if they hand Liverpool the title. It will be kinda funny if they win it because it is so tainted!
  50. 2 points
    It seems sensible to read ‘25 minutes without oxygen” as time without oxygen enrichment, for example via a pressurised gas container; not that Reina didn’t have access to the 21% oxygen in air! The former would have caused many Covid-19 sufferers great discomfort and a terrifying feeling of not being able to breathe, the latter - certain death. Get well soon Pepe.
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