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  1. I was explaining to someone not too long ago why I, as an American with no connection to Birmingham, support Villa and I realized what I was describing was Stockholm Syndrome.
    10 points
  2. For all my 30+ years on this earth, I have been passionate towards Villa and football in general. I’ve spent countless hours on football forums and news sides, studying everything football related, especially Villa. I fondly remember my first Villa memory, which was the league cup win against Leeds in 96. A match I was sent a VHS copy months later, from my Grandad. A VHS I watched so many times, that I still remember details from the match, even though I haven’t watched it for many years. I passionately started following and understanding football when Martin O’Neill became manager. This was an exciting time to be a Villa fan, we had many great players and some good memories. Though, they ultimately, still, always seemed to end in disappointment. I have stuck with Villa through 2x FA cup final losses, including spending £100’s to travel and attend the Arsenal trashing, 2x League cup finals losses, one play-off final lose, which I again spent £100’s to attend. I’ve experienced so many lows. The ones that pop to mind include the yearly decline following MON, the humiliating semi final loss to Bradford, the nearly 700 minute goalless run in 14/15, in what must have been the least entertaining team to have ever played in the Premier League, the 8-0 loss to Chelsea being maybe the stand out in a plethora of humiliating losses, Petrov’s illness, relegation, including the humiliating way that we got relegated in, and some dreadful seasons in the championship (including nearly going bankrupt). And all my favourite players leaving year by year. So many horrible seasons, so many horrible experiences. On the contrary, I can count the good experiences on one hand. Promotion, Semi-final vs. Liverpool, and some decent wins here and there, particularly vs. Blues. Despite majority of experiences being horrible, I have always stuck with Villa, watched every match I could, which has not always been easy due to the limited coverage of them we get here. I never turned a match of, not even when we lost 8-0. But I think I might finally have cracked. I can’t stand to watch football that is not Villa related, and I can’t stand to watch Villa. There are simply more entertaining ways to spend my time. I have missed some matches lately and turned multiple off. I feel numb to results, with only referee decision resulting in any response from me, like the one today against United. These are always negative emotions. Villa always seem to be a team that plays the least entertaining football in the world, with this current team being up there with the worst in pure entertainment value. Is this an experience anyone else has had? Did the passion come back and how? Would be interesting to hear what made people crack and stop caring? (or what is your worst experience or time as a Villa fan).
    9 points
  3. As I said in the post match United thread, we are the most fragile team in the league and the current lack of goals in our team means once we go behind our heads drop considerably and the very little confidence we have disappears totally. Our key players are not performing and we really are in last chance saloon territory come Sunday afternoon. The thing is, I think just one win, one bloody win and the impact it could have on us going into the following 3 games could still be massive. I'm not giving up yet, call me delusional, and I sure hope the players aren't either - We ALL expected to lose the last two games and although we did, there were positives (mainly Liverpool and 30 mins against United). The four games we have IMO are all WINNABLE. We knew that, it's time for the players to step up. Like I said, I may be mad but I don't think it's over................. YET! Up the f***in Villa
    8 points
  4. But a very good coach can improve the collective ability of team who's individual ability might not be top notch. Improving shape, tactically more aware, positionally better and improving little nuances in a players game. Southampton may have better players than us individually but not by much but as a team they are head and shoulders above us. They got a genuine world class manager. I don't think one can understate the impact Fernandes has had. Looks like he's walked in and took over the dressing room. My point basically though is, if between now and next season we think we are going to be lumbered with most of what we've got, the only logical solution is spend money on a seriously well credentialed ( preferably continental coach ) who might make this lot better with shape, intensity, fitter, tactically better footballers. Definition of insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting different results. If Smith can't get mistakes, poor play, half arsed efforts ironed out of these lads by now - give it to someone who might be able to.
    7 points
  5. his twattish actions and attitude during lockdown and his appalling performances post lock down, coupled with the emergence of Foden, consistent performamces of Mount, Madison even Barkely might mean he never makes his England debut. He won't get in on the wings either with rashford, sancho, greenwood and sterling getting picked tere Getting pissed up with McCormack might **** up his career. He's a **** clown
    7 points
  6. Even the fixture list is laughing at us
    7 points
  7. Premier League have confirmed that it should have been a free-kick to Villa https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53357841
    6 points
  8. Can't really comment too much. I switched off at HT. Was dreading it could be 6. For the part I watched, which I understand will be completely different to many other reviews, was that we were the better team for 30 mind and unlucky not to be 1 up with the Grealish miss and more so with Trez's shot off the post. I am not saying we would have won this game, its 'Villa v United' after all.. but that "penalty" was a complete game-changer and was an absolute joke of a decision, compounded by no overturning from VAR. F**king scandalous. But this is what the premier league has become. Then to go compound the misery we concede from our own fault (Mings) last kick of the half. Was so obvious that would happen. I thought Konsa was our best player (remember I only watched 45) but he put in 3 terrific crosses. And Luiz looked decent again. By all accounts he's the MOTM again. Fair play to him. I agree with other comments, be a shame to see him leave. What I've obviously missed in the second half is that the team showed no fight and no desire and basically that was that. That's very concerning but doesn't surprise me. We're the most fragile team in the league. 4 games left to save our season.
    6 points
  9. Villa, for me, are quite literally on the other side of the world. I've been following them long enough to remember some of the good times - our table topping run under John Gregory, our League Cup wins, some of our football under MON and our recent promotion. But there have been so many lows during that time too: FA Cup and league cup final submissions, the decline into relegation and, just like yesterday, the inevitable bloody loss to ManUre, replete with abysmal referring decisions. It's getting me down. I'm not enjoying football like I should and - like you - I only care about Villa. I can stomach highlights from other matches but even then the media love-in for the "big clubs" makes me want to puke. ..... But .... Even though I am likely to never be able to physically make it to a game at Villa park - just seeing the sea of Claret and Blue in the stands and hearing the crowd belt out "villa, Villa, VILLA!" still makes the hairs on my neck stand up and my eyes well with tears. They still get me out of bed at 3am in the middle of winter so I can see them live despite occassional poor coverage (especially in the Championship) and mediocre (or worse) performances. It's an ugly thing, this thing called love. It hurts so bad when we lose and it elates like nothing else in sport when we succeed. I love the Villa, so I put up with the pain in the (vain?) hope that the highs will be that much sweeter, that much greater, that much more enjoyable and memorable. I'm going nowhere else. Up the Villa!
    5 points
  10. like Wesley and the hammering he gets. Do we create loads of chances for him...no Does he get protection and support from midefield….no Does he have to deal with long balls and 100 mph balls played in to him....yes Is he always surrounded by 2..maybe 3 defenders.....yes. I'd say the issue with the team around him. If we were creating sitters for him every game and he misses them...then fine...he is poor....but lets look at how we play first before we say he's poor
    5 points
  11. Last night’s shocking decision may not have affected the end result as ManUre are on a rich vein of form, however the impact it had on our players, who were arguably playing well up to that point was devastating. the mentality of being in a relegation battle and then having every decision go against you must crush what little confidence there is. the ‘apology’ from VAR is as empty as it is useful. I guarantee we’ll have a penalty decision this weekend overturned due to ‘over-examination’ by VAR...
    5 points
  12. Love this one: (I saw it at: https://twitter.com/rantyben/status/1280783121407815681)
    5 points
  13. Did anyone notice the Manure bench when Fernandes was substituted? They were grinning ear-to-ear as their player had cheated their team to victory; and therein lies the difference. Villa are too nice, too humble and don't have the win at all costs mentality as we have been left behind by our rudderless management and appointments. Luiz MOTM again, is that almost every game now? He was running everywhere and full of energy and showed leadership qualities in a team seriously lacking leaders. You could see he was visibly frustrated by the rest of his team conning a living as professional footballers. Neil Taylor was OK and stopped an almost certain fourth goal. Konsa, I like him he's still raw at this level but he will be quality. McGinn should be nowhere near the first team, he's gassed after twenty minutes and his fitness levels are shocking. Grealish poor again, we are looking for him to save us but he seems not as good as we thought he was. Mings at fault again for the second goal, how many clangers can one man drop. And we all thought we had the better deal re: Maguire v Mings. £26 million WTF? Samatta I was all for giving a start but he offers nothing. Thought Trezeguet was industrious and he looked sharp, unlucky for us his shot hit he post. The rest, poor I guess.
    5 points
  14. 5 points
  15. We have to accept now that we're a nothing club really. Holding onto the "Proud history" bollocks means nothing and counts for nothing. No-one respects us anymore and we dont deserve any either. Football really is an amazing thing. Nothing else in life would you tolerate so much misery and come back for more the next day. At least in a bad marriage you can get divorced. All of us are stuck with this team for life. I agree with Farlz above, I'm not interested in getting promoted to have a season like this again, or a 15-16. Or become relegation fodder every year like rats trying to survive. I dont see how anyone would enjoy that or get anything out of it. Sadly, that seems the only foreseeable future atm and that's if things go well.
    5 points
  16. This. Ive said it a thousand times if we looked organised and showed some fight I wouldn’t be anywhere near as harsh on him. But we’ve seen very little of that this season. In his own words my teams mirror me. Says it all really. Not to mention he as good as admitted he threw in the towel in the second half yesterday. Unforgivable.
    4 points
  17. Yes. He gets part of the credit for improving Luiz as he gets part of the responsibility for any loss of form in Jack. He also gets part of the responsibility of the loss in form of the entire team. Stop being so black and white. I didn’t say it was all down to Smith. I said Smith’s job is to get the best out of his players. It’s his job to motivate them, use them correctly, and manage the team in a way that gets us points in football matches. He’s not doing his job very well. If you’re going to absolve him of responsibility for everything then what exactly IS he doing right?
    4 points
  18. Look we all know we have poor players. The quality just isn’t there. So the only way to compensate is the effort and desire. I saw that yesterday until we conceded. Then I saw players, one in particular totally give up and not really care when we conceded. That was when I knew we were down and Smith has to go.
    4 points
  19. If only we could have played in half empty stadiums, we'd be unstoppable.
    4 points
  20. I mean this current setup isn't like the chancers Tom Fox/Lerner, Xia/Wyness etc. They've made mistakes for sure but sacking everyone just seems silly. It hasn't been a disaster of a season. We got relegated in our first season up as the playoff winners/5th placed team, after making wholesale squad changes. The odds weren't exactly in our favour.
    4 points
  21. With the benefit of hindsight, Purslow’s post play-off interviews must have sounded rather arrogant to all those PL clubs who scrap for mid-table respectability with a mix of gnarly old pros and youngsters from the loan market. We let it be known in no uncertain terms that we looked down on that model. Perhaps we should have been watching and learning rather than pontificating. One way or another, I imagine there’ll be a bit more humility this summer.
    4 points
  22. OK Fair points - build for the future etc - but do you accept total and utter failure as an indicator that something is being built ? - I don't see why building for the future means the immediate short term should be dross - ? - How do we know we are the right track ? TBH there is more evidence we aren't. A defence which which for a good whack of the season has contained Mings, Heaton, Targett - shouldn't be amongst the worse in the division - The current manager has a history of leaky defences and losing leads - I could be wrong and he might rectify that over the summer - are you that confident. Read Petrovs article tonight - hes right on the money. No many many managers survive the sort of stats that Smith is now clocking up, whatever the mitigating circumstances - I don't believe the current board spent £140m and underwrite the club for millions of pounds monthly without wanting some signs of progress in return. I believe the board will dispense with both both DS and Susso shortly after the season ends.
    4 points
  23. That never happened
    4 points
  24. I really don't get how this gets ignored so much. Which of our relegation rivals had to play multiple games without a striker? Which of them lost their first two choice keepers to injuries? Our squad is so inferior to those around us. None of our wide players would start for any of them. None of our strikers would start for any of them. I highly doubt our full backs would start for any of them and neither would our keepers. Yet for some unknown reason, we should be doing better than them. I do find the idea that there should be more to come from this squad at this level an odd one. Its just totally based on nothing.
    4 points
  25. I can't speak for others, but we could have at least gone down with a fight ... We are playing for our survival here , we basically spent that second half playing Football **** manager in "don't hurt us" mode , some sort of fear that if we tried to tackle or heaven forbid try and score United might punish us and go for 5 or 6 nil ( a scoreline that it probably should have been anyway ) it's a team going through the motions , they look lost , Dean looks lost , if he was a cat you'd have taken him to the vet by now and had him put out of his misery . Reading back through the individual player threads on this forum for the season , even when we weren't winning there was some optimism that players looked quite decent , with the exception of Luiz nearly every player seems to have regressed the longer the season has gone on .. i guess 2 points from 30 will do that to a player , but to my mind it also shows the manager and his coaches are failing in their jobs ... Norwich are doomed , but from watching them , although they lack in quality and play some suicidal football at times , they are fighting for their manager , i think they believe in their manager .. you can't say the same for our players 4 games to go , We need to be feeding these players raw steak and poking them every 5 minutes with a cattle prod before the Palace game, so they go out there angry and fired up ..instead Smith looks the sort that will give them some chamomile tea and tell them everything will be ok . The job of getting us out the championship next season and developing those young players , needs to be with someone better than Smith and better coaches , in my Football **** Manager opinion
    4 points
  26. So we've got 4 matches to win. Let's go!!!
    4 points
  27. Many being unduly harsh on Smith here. One of the worst decisions I've ever seen us face and the players are completely deflated by it and Man Utd are thrust into life by going a goal up. We had the better of the game up until that point, they were sluggish and not at the races. The goal changed everything and when you've got players of that level that suddenly decide to switch on - what the **** are our players supposed to do? What magic words were you expecting him to say at half time that will make our players able to compete, all things equal, with players that are much, much better? When we're **** 2-0 down? Is Neil Taylor suddenly going to have an epiphany that turns him into a world class full back? I'd love to see what you guys think motivational speech is and how you think it suddenly turns bang average players into superstars. I very much doubt that half the people complaining about it have ever had to train or motivate someone in any sort of capacity. I swear that people seem to think that this is a combination of Hollywood and Football **** Manager or something. The motivation I want to see is between matches, where we can start better and look brighter and we **** did that in that game - we were actually creating chances and having shots on goal, looking a lot more fluid in attack than we had done for a while, and then we get the mother of all inexplicable decisions, which was a total gut-punch.
    4 points
  28. If's and But's Many games have been called must win's over the years. However Sunday's game is a must win in every sense of the word. Watford to draw to Newcastle West Ham to beat Norwich Bournemouth to lose to Leicester Aston Villa to beat Crystal Palace 16 - West Ham - 34 points 17 - Watford - 32 points 18 - Aston Villa - 30 points 19 - Bournemouth - 28 points
    4 points
  29. Its not about loyalty. No one is questioning that. But if your gonna leave us in summer at least try. He has put so little effort in since the restart. He just doesn't give a shit. Where is the passion of mellberg? The fight of a lion trying to keep us up.screaming at his teammates for better?? Ive not seen none of that. A poor captain. Never a captain in a million years
    4 points
  30. A couple of errors you can understand.. however from the start it’s been an absolute shames and not just for us. To using millimetres to rule out goals which aren’t obvious (see goal vs Burnley) to obvious errors (see penalty yesterday). The cynic in me thinks it’s happening far too often (not just against us) to think it’s just “errors”. They are quick to come out afterwards to say they made a mistake but what’s the punishment? Nothing from what I can see. They can quite easily get it purposely wrong and say “oh yeah I probably shouldn’t have given this”.. no consequences at all. If anything it’s called the games integrity into question more rather than the opposite.
    4 points
  31. Until that shocking penalty decision we were the better side and looked well up for it, can't believe how one wrong decision completely turned the match. We go a goal down and we give up. After that we were poor. Still cant understand why VAR didn't overturn, every person I spoke to thinks that was never a penalty, everyone in the Sky studio and commentary said it wasn't a penalty.. how can one person watching a video replay get it so wrong? Are players now allowed to jump 2 footed into a defender and win a penalty? missed that new law. If it was the other end of the pitch it wouldn't have been a penalty and our player would have been sent off for a 2 footed challenge with both feet leaving the ground
    4 points
  32. As a Villa fan I have often felt blessed.My first full season ticket was 1980 -81 and the following few years were fantastic.Then we got relegated .Graham Taylor came along and we became a major force again . The play off win last year felt very special almost like a rebirth,I know this season hasn’t worked out well but we are in a better position than 4 years ago. Villa are about highs and lows.But when the highs come you have to enjoy them because it probably won’t last. Villa park is without doubt the greatest stadium in English football and when we win there is something almost magical about it. I remember going to Villa park in 2016 the year we were relegated playing really badly and losing to Bournemouth and I think it meant we were mathematically relegated .After half time the Holte end began singing “we shall not moved etc” and I realised this is how true fans react,it’s easy to get carried away when your successful but sticking with your team through thick and thin even when your team is shit is what it means to be a true fan. We have an incredibly loyal fan base,if we were playing in League 2 we would still get 30,000. There will be good times ahead,I don’t know when it will be but when it comes it will feel fantastic.
    4 points
  33. I said it the day we got promoted. Some of the signings we went for (allegedly) were saying like "who is Dean Smith?". I said he will be our biggest limiting factor. When Douglas Luiz pulled the ball back to Hourihane that passage which followed is what typifies the coaching by him and his staff. The Man United kid Williams didn't give Connor a millimetre. We close down sometimes but still give them a foot of space and wait for them to do something. We were being out passed in the championship under him. It's mentality and it's programming. Rafa Benitez programmed his Newcastle team to be hard to beat because he knew he didn't have the best players. He would constantly talk about football with them and how to improve. He worked extremely hard on fitness and strength with them. And against the top 6 they gave good accounts of themselves and still got some impressive wins. When Houllier came here he was shocked at the pathetic fitness of our players and the standards being set generally around the club. That's why the old boys brigade hated him. The target was to be in the premier League for the 20/21 season regardless of which division we are in this season. Target failed. Make a decision move him on. Dean Smith needs time out of the game to grieve for the tragic loss he suffered. It really takes it out of you. Unfortunately we are a business and don't underestimate the the impact of relegation. It's set us back. Today felt like relegation I've said for a while we're down but today it feels like confirmation. They gave up. Even if they walked off and forfeited the game I could stand by them because the corruption is disgusting. But they gave up. The United defence is awful. They were getting at Wan Bisaka. But they gave up. A decision like that would have spurred me on. But they gave up.
    4 points
  34. I was so angry at half time I could smash something. Not only do we have a disadvantage of playing without our fans, big clubs get the advantage of 5 subs, idiotic cooling breaks and on top of that they also have the advantage of a referee giving them penalties and goals. And then the second goal was over the 4 mins of extra time, time that he found because of the stupid non-penalty. That's not a penalty in a 100 years, Bruno tries a fancy turn, looses his balance, falls over Konsa and puts his studs in Konsas leg. The first 25 mins was among the best I've seen us play against one of the top teams. We looked up for it, created more and looked a threat. Jack going close and Trez hitting the post. Then the cooling break and that stupid decision just pushed us off our stride. Horrendous. Then I dont understand why Jack wasn't substitued. If he is injured or exhausted he shouldn't be playing the last minutes when we are 3 down. If he was fit his attitude is appaling and should be subbed for that.
    4 points
  35. My man of the match is all of us. All of us that keep watching this crap and hoping for something
    4 points
  36. Because he’s not good enough!!!! I don’t think anyone speaking up for DS thinks he is currently anything more than a lower-half PL manager at best. If we could sign Pochitino or similar I’d happily help DS pack up his desk but I see no benefit of swapping him for Chris Hughton or similar
    3 points
  37. I was chatting about this yesterday to a friend that isn't a football fan, and I recalled a thought from Wembley last season when I thought to myself: 'This is why I do it'. Being consistently shit is draining, but every now and then I'm reminded why I love it. And even though this season has been largely awful, there has been 1/2 of "those moments" Everton at home springs to mind, the atmosphere was incredible. But like @villa4europe earlier, though I love my club, I've hated football for years. I genuinely can't remember the last match I watched that didn't involve ourselves (or the odd England game). It must literally be years.
    3 points
  38. I think its perfectly fair. You dont see lazy disinterested defending like mings is consistently doing. He isnt even trying. Where is the mings from last season? Complete different player. As for grealish when we are losing and playing poorly i dont want to see our captain a so called villa fan smiling without a care in the world. Despite my feelings towards smith i can see he is hurting where we are. Grealish dont care. Like @OxfordVillan says more interested in his social media profile. Captain non fantastic
    3 points
  39. ...is the right answer, unless they shut 3 hospitals and concentrate resource on one super hospital 25 miles away that they’ve managed to build nowhere near a train station, so a visit to hospital potentially involves 2 changes of bus. Fine on the way in, but on the way home, if its raining and you’re stood on a bus stop with your arse sticking out the back of a paper gown, not so much fun.
    3 points
  40. I’ll probably get abuse for saying this, but I think Grealish and Mings are more concerned with their public profile, more concerned with their social media image to promote themselves. Granted that can be said about many modern players these days, but I don’t think it helps the team on the pitch.
    3 points
  41. Love villa but hate football Stopped going to villa games as I found I was just getting smashed and the football was a side show The test will be if my overall enjoyment of football diminishing makes me feel apathetic towards villa, my rage last night suggests not yet
    3 points
  42. You don't sack the person who put together the recruitment team every time you have a bad season, if you sack Purslow for Smith and Suso's failures then what next wanting Sawiris and Edens out because they were the ones that gave Purslow a job. And he only negoiates the transfers after he's been told who the people running the football side of things want to buy. The owners might decide to be ruthless and get rid of him, but I don't think it's something we should be expecting.
    3 points
  43. Not saying we’d had won but imagine if Fernandes had been sent off. Different game entirely. The league is a damn joke.
    3 points
  44. I don't disagree too much. Its strange, I know I defend him lots but I'm not a huge fan of his. I don't think he's done a good job. I wouldn't be gutted if he was sacked and we brought in a decent manager and I don't think Smith will return us to the glory days. But for the first time, in my villa supporting life, I just don't feel, when looking at the squad and a few injuries, that the manager should be doing much better with them. I look at the keepers and the fact we are rotating 3rd/4th choice players. I look at the entire set of attacking players and those on the bench and I don't see players good enough for this league.
    3 points
  45. It has all been going horribly downhill post-MON. I have absolutely no reason to support Villa. I’m not from Birmingham. But I can’t just give up as it’s in my blood now and I hate it. I’d give anything to support a decent team. Villa are awful and as a football club cause me nothing but misery. The ONLY redeeming features are the fans and the stadium. But I never go to the stadium, and by fans I really just mean people who post on here in this little family. I say I’ve stopped caring, but I never really have. I “didn’t care” about the game, but still tracked the score and it still pissed me off because it’s impossible not to. The best feeling I’ve ever had as a Villa fan was promotion last year where I really felt elated seeing it happen before my eyes. That says a lot. Maybe that’s why I’m looking forward to the championship. We can actually revel in some relative (in the literal sense) success again.
    3 points
  46. Why is it that people state Terry is an issue but no one ever seems to question Richard O'Kelly ? The players are not good enough Suso's fault ..despite Smith on record saying he went to watch Trez , that Maupay was too expensive and it was him who wanted Drinkwater ? I'm not saying Suso in particular is blameless but seems to be alot of passing the buck to defend Smith.In Terrys case I can't remember too many times over the years of poor managers where the assistant or coaches where the issue .I don't recall people saying if we got rid of Clemance Bruce would be doing better for example. On purchasing Smith didn't do the buying at Brentford so there is not evidence to suggest left to him soley it would be better.Currently our best player is Luiz so who takes credit for that transfer ? My point is I don't subscribe the theory that we would be massively better with Terry and Suso not here ...I doubt it
    3 points
  47. That was the worst penalty decision I have ever seen(since palace away)I have never seen a penalty given when the attacking player deserved a red card. Thing that shocked me the most was Gary Neville justifying it (previously I had always respected his opinions) We played well for 27 mins had 3 or 4 good chances but after that incident we were done. I thought Taylor ,Hause and Konsa did OK. Is Mings shit ?No .Did he make a mistake ?Yes Is Grealish playing poorly ?Yes.He is trying to carry the weight of the team on his shoulders and he can’t cope. Crystal Palace is must win.Can we win ?If everybody just thinks positively for a few days we can .I am not sure who is going to score for us but it’s possible . We can have conversations about how shit all our players are when it is mathematically certain and we can sell all our players and buy another 10 -15 new players because we know that is certain to be successful.
    3 points
  48. Evra and Keane talking about the penalty and said it wasnt a penalty but then are justifying the penalty...........WTF! What happened to the days when pundits were less biased, there is no hiding it these days.
    3 points
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