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Wow, so much negativity and over reaction. FFS people, we are a work in progress and we gave West Ham a bloody good test, Heaton was not troubled all evening. Yes we have work to do, and we lost the plot a bit after the sending off, we misplaced a lot of passes but these players have played 5 league games together and more than held their own against an established top half team. We had by far the better chances and on another day could have won that by a couple of goals. It saddens me to see our fans tearing into our own players after a game. FFS get behind the team. This is a season of transition and we have a lot of work to do, but anyone would think we had just lost to Accrington Stanley.

Had 2 cans of red bull, a pack of haribo and some sugar tablets I take before football. **** buzzing now lads. 7-0. **** em up, get into em. Get the ball from back to front and no fannying about it. No more silly mistakes, no more sloppy play, no more dilly dallying. Shell it. In the mixer. Heads up. Who wants it.

People will overreact definitely. They were a top half team last year it’s not a terrible result.

Read this. Saw it's the poster's 11th post. Smiled wryly to myself. Welcome to VT

If a summer where you shed 15+ players and have to replace them whilst stepping up a league in quality is not a transition, then someone should explain to me what one is. It would be hard to imagine more upheaval and change than we were forced into by the dicktards that were running the club previously, transition is change, we are probably the most changed squad in the league. Managing that change and picking up points is a tough ask, we're doing ok.

Absolute nonsense. Totally reactionary comment. Another clean sheet, but need to create more. We are competitive, but yet to find our final third game. Need some more options up front in Jan. Nakamba looked useful once he warmed up. A point, keep on grinding it Villa, it will come

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Taylor's header

Grealish workrate was phenomenal. If he wasnt on the pitch tonight I think we'd have lost

This. Not the greatest performance but we should chillax a little.

I may not be able to attend matches or show my support in person but if I could prove my love for Aston Villa it would be by the fact I have hardly slept all night. I have been up since 3am and am so anxious as even though I'm optimistic about our season overall I'm not naive enough to misunderstand how important this match could be for us!

Hes been involved in most of our attacks, running at pace, making things tick.

Good luck tonight lads.

Nakamba looked good. Engels fantastic yet again. Frustrating going forward. Jack always showing and getting moves going but his final ball was often very much lacking today. Wesley the biggest frustration for me. He certainly does have some developing to do and has potential, but he goes down too easily and his aerial ability isn't great. Thought Rice, Ogbonna and Fabianski all looked strong for them - all played a big part in us not scoring but our sloppy play in the final third didn't help. Games like today - although it would be greedy - we would have benefited from an option like Benrahma.

I know most wont be happy, but I think both the result and performance were ok.

Dean Smith in game management cost us. Those last 20 minutes screamed for Hourihane

Ask most leavers their least favourite EU law and they'd be equally as confused as her. If anything, it's damning evidence that a referendum on a topic such as the EU was insane in itself.

A whole what?

Something around here certainly is.

Passed a microsoft exam today. (Power BI). first exam for many years. Studied loads. Well happy.looking for job at the mo.so a good boost all round.

I think we would have lost that game if he hadn't been playing, he gives us more of what we need in that position than Luiz.

Hard to know what some on here expect - I’m looking towards a long hard season and will be delighted if we finish 17th, therefore a point against a top ten team is fine with me. Defence and midfield look very decent and will keep us in with a chance in most games. We are not as strong upfront and I think we all knew that would be a issue before the season started. I’d imagine more re-enforcements will be drafted in in January but Clearly upfront is the most expensive area to improve and it may take some time (seasons) to get that right - in the meantime we need to grind out results and keep putting points on the board

We gave the ball away far too often.

Really weird the Grealish criticism, he's the ball carrier of the team, everything goes through him. It's the front three are playing at a level below the rest of the team to me.

Are people really questioning Grealish in this game? Probs his best performance of the season imo.

McGinn or Grealish are going off for Luiz second half. Neither of them have done anything major to warrant another 45 minutes of that with Luiz on the bench. I reckon Deano will give them 15 minutes then sub one of them off. Nakamba, one bad pass apart, has been solid and full of energy. The wingers haven't been great but Jota is worst of the two. Wesley proves we need another striker. Does Deano wish he'd spent the extra money on Maupay?

I love Björn Engels. He's excellent.

It does, when it's non-existent.

It's very difficult to gauge how public opinion is going, when all we have to go on are polls (which have been spectacularly wrong in recent years) and the echo chamber-cum-bearpit of social media. But, subjective and skewed though it may be, I think I detect a slight shift in the tone and numbers of rabid Brexiters on Facebook. Yes, the "We won, get over it" mob are still there, but not quite in the numbers they were a year or so ago. I think the Yellowhammer revelations, Boris's behaviour, the Tory defections and so on are starting to erode the Leaver numbers. The question is, by how much?

It's gained mine overnight and I highly doubt I'm alone. You know, if at the end of all of this we reach a position where the Lib Dems come to power (unlikely, granted) and the likes of Boris, Gove and Rees-Mogg's political careers in tatters, Brexit gets ripped up and every moron and racist angered (ideally to the extent that they piss off somewhere else, probably Benidorm ironically) - well wouldn't that just be spiffing.

**** OFF JESUS!

Got stuck in traffic in Solihull this morning. I could see Plod had blocked off the main road so knew it was serious. Turns out a woman got hit by a bus and died at the scene. The thing that pisses me off about it...Facebook's Solihull Updates reported this incident, I was appalled to see how many British people now find it "helpful" to send "thoughts and prayers". Thought and prayers do **** all.

Don't feed the trolls.

I have very similar feelings. A lot depends now on how Corbyn and Labour respond. Overturning Brexit is my priority, which inevitably means swallowing some pride and backing people I have little taste for (in any party). Right now I'd welcome an electoral pact and a broad left coalition government (Lab/LibDem/Plaid/SNP/Green) to see off the Tory/Farage lot. It would come loaded with problems, but I'd live with that.

9 years late to this party but whoever voted for Turkish Delight is devil spawn.

I went to watch Salford City vs Cheltenham Town yesterday. Our loanee Jake Doyle-Hayes started and impressed he had a very good game for Cheltenham! Interested to see how he progresses over the season for them.

Those numbers...

But it's extremely unlikely that they will be able to stop him without Parliamentary support from at least one, and probably two other parties.

Depending on how you look at it, Corbyn is either admirably principled or suicidally pigheaded. He has a chance to shut up the propagandists and slanderers, and become a real statesman as a PM heading a coalition. Sadly, I don't think he will.

That training video is laughable. Players jumping over hoops with big smiles on their faces. like gurning idiots. look at lansbury in that shot! he knows after larking about with the lads he's probably got 4 different birds to shag in the afternoon then dop 8k at the bullring vip. that vid looks like theyre playing in the garden with their nephews not training. no wonder micha richards stayed for 5 years without getting a game. I want to see sweat and intense pain on their faces veins bulging at the temples. like rocky 4 when he's training in the snow. grunting at high decibels. Villa media guys! I don't want to see these coiffured preening ponces enjoying themselves after 3 defeats in 4 games I want to see them screaming in the ice bath. get that footage for the next defeat.

Summary from the weekend - Nothing to see here... Bree (Luton) Away at QPR (3-2) - Played 90 minutes. WhoScored.com rating of 5.94. Doyle-Hayes (Cheltenham) Away at Salford (0-2) - Played 90 minutes. WhoScored.com rating of 6.67. Green (Preston) Home to Brentford (2-0) - Unused substitute. Hepburn-Murphy (Tranmere) Away at Oxford (3-0) - Played 90 minutes. WhoScored.com rating of 5.99. Hogan (Stoke) Home to Bristol City (1-2) - Came on after 75 minutes. WhoScored.com rating of 6.00. Touch Count: 2 O'Hare (Coventry) Away at Burton (0-0) - Came on after 61 minutes. WhoScored.com rating of 6.29. Sarkic (Livingston)Away at Rangers (3-1) - Unused substitute.

Top of the table after 4 games, won today against Palace 6-0 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/womens-super-league-two/table sorry mods tried to copy table but on phone and formatting was pants, gave up in the end

Totally, it's the way people seem to think that Burnley, Brighton, Norwich are gimmies that most gobsmacks me really. Before we get the right to think like that about anyone in this league we need to earn it, either by being comfortable top half or by staying up a couple of times and being established in this league. I think West Ham might be a classic, might be on the wrong end of a 5 goal thriller, might be on the right end of it. I'd be surprised to see us click so fast though, we've had an hour against Bournemouth where we've looked good, looked great on the counter against Everton. We've not really seen much else yet so where this idea comes from that we're just going to walk games at this level comes from I don't know. Love Smith, love the project, love captain Gresford, love McGinn, love the atmosphere at home against Everton, love the new owners and Purslow, so much awesome about us right now but we need to be patient and we need to support them even is we don't stay up this year.