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  1. Alright lads. Come over from Waccoe - the main Leeds forum. We've suffered pretty much everything a club could. Admin, crooked owners, relegation, points deductions, more crooked owners, vultures, overseas owners ruining us, Trevor Birch, celebrity dwarves, the entire lot. For some of us its overwhelmed the (admittedly often very poor) football for much of the last fifteen-twenty years. If you've got any questions about how bad it can get, the amount you learn about finances very quickly as a fan of a broken club, warning signs, the usual, feel free to come onto waccoe, take the abuse
    22 points
  2. POB has aired his view. He’s one of us!
    14 points
  3. the parent company: 天夏智慧, listed on stock market (000662), whose chairman is Tony Xia. The child company: 天夏信息技术, translated as Tian Xia tech info ltd., which is funded 100% by the parent company. Note that these companies are different from the companies in the UK. They are registered in China. below is the summary of the relationship between all important elements of the group. I add notes for you to read (those in Chinese are not that important). Those numbers means 'control' in %. Pic source So basically, on 5th June, Xia attended the executive board meeting for t
    11 points
  4. No such word. It's "boracic". Rhyming slang: "boracic lint" = "skint".
    8 points
  5. The only thing I have to look forward to for next season is Bruce not being our manager. Please do not take this away from me.
    8 points
  6. I'd be extremely disappointed if even after all of this he still manages to keep his job
    8 points
  7. Honestly, does no one else still think we should keep him at all costs? If the team has to be dismantled I would rather sell everyone else and build the new young team around him. Even if it means he becomes captain or senior. (This does not mean I think he should be captain) I mean I think we should try our best to keep at least ONE shining element ffs.
    8 points
  8. Interesting interview on talksport just now with Simon Jordan.. Always liked him, talks a lot of sense. Talking about Villa's situation, he clearly knows someone high up at villa but wouldn't reveal sources... Probably wyness or someone similar. He said Villa won't be going into administration, but will need to sort out the wage bill, as we all know. Said HMRC can be dealt with, and a threat of a winding up order was quite common and usually the first shot they use to concentrate your mind on paying ; he said they can usually be paid over a longer period once you have done a dea
    8 points
  9. Thank heavens you're not responsible for choosing our next manager, then.
    7 points
  10. Just heard Barbara the tea lady gets time and a half for Sunday games. TIME & FOOKIN' HALF!!! GET TO ****, LOVE.
    7 points
  11. If we are changing our plans and going for youth and playing football more like our younger teams then Bruce cannot stay on. He is not the man to do it.
    6 points
  12. And then there is the stuff you’ve already clocked like selling the rights to future transfer instalments at a discount to buy immediate cash. Next will be mortgaging the next three seasons season ticket income which might get you through your current hiccup (a good way to realise quick cash but you pay the price for seasons afterwards). Then there will be the running short on pies at half time as there isn’t the cash to get stock in for matchdays. Has that happened yet? What happens next as your catering isn’t making any money as you’ve not got enough to sell is you sell the cate
    6 points
  13. Woah there. A club announcement saying everything's fine (we've had a few of those over the years), an okay to try and get a loan of up to £50m and an agreement to sort out a missed tax bill at some time in the future and now everything's rosy? I'm not sure I agree.
    6 points
  14. http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11677/11397525/steve-bruce-determined-to-send-aston-villa-back-to-premier-league
    6 points
  15. Presumably, Recon can then funnel that money into Villa as Corporations aren't as restricted as individuals when it comes to investing outside of China. Xia can then service that loan from the cash he has in China by funnelling his money into Recon and therefore keeping it in China. Basically, using Recon as an intermediary to legitimately get cash from Xia into Villa, just means the cost of doing so is the interest paid to the Bank. If Xia is willing to do that, then I see that as testament to his honest intentions. Yes, he could have structured all of this more efficiently, but c
    6 points
  16. This is not quite accurate. What happened 2 days ago was that, the executive board of Xia's company approved that the main company will sponsor the child-company to loan up to 50m pounds over the next two years. This does not mean that Xia has loaned 50m two days ago, but it does mean that Xia has had the approval to do so.
    6 points
  17. I remember my dad being quite chuffed in 1971 when we lost the league cup final to spurs - I couldn't understand why he dismissed the result as not important - he said "yes but the potential is there now" - we were just on the way back from bankruptcy then. RIP Dad.
    6 points
  18. As a mark of respect, pole dancers are being flown at half mast today. or This will only heap more emotional pressure on Peter's girlfriend who was already suffering under the stress of her gcse's
    6 points
  19. No way Bruce gets a free pass for this. The policy he adopted of signing players at the end of their career on big wages given our financial plight meant you had to be supremely confident of finishing top 2. This is not how we approached games at all. The PO Final basically being a microcosm of our season. Knowing his game plan then you can only conclude that he was incredibly reckless in burdening the club with a wage bill, expenditure sheet and ageing squad in a shit or bust move. If he had any integrity he'd resign. But he won't, he'll sit it out and wait for the pay off just like ever
    6 points
  20. Wow someone actually gives a shit whether Villa lives or dies.. I am so used to Aston Villa being talked about as if they don't matter, as if they are this non-entity by every pundit on TV that I'm surprised someone cares enough to bring this up in Government.
    6 points
  21. If we accept £15 million then I’m done with this club
    5 points
  22. Pies have ran short but that coz wyness ate them all
    5 points
  23. No, there's a North of England, too. Only, It's much better than the south, in our case. .
    5 points
  24. TBH, the latest statement doesn't even confirm we've paid our tax bill, just an "agreement" with HMRC "has been reached". I've spent enough of my life constructing weasel words that put the best possible gloss on bad situations to be able to recognise such words when I read them from someone else. (In fact, I regard that statement as weasel words from beginning to end.)
    5 points
  25. Actually I take back my post. He had the highest paid squad of players in Championship history and he failed! Do you see why the ‘mass hysteria’ now Bruce? I want him gone. He may not be responsible for what the club are paying these players but he is part of the whole sorry saga.
    5 points
  26. Think we would be lucky to still have him here come August. We are hardly going to be an attractive opportunity now are we!
    5 points
  27. It's Nadine Dorries. She's offensively stupid.
    5 points
  28. There are quite a few assumptions in that article but I do agree with the rough estimation of investment Xia has put in over the last 2 years (I think the actual net spending is slightly lower than that but not far off). From many reports I have read, the core of all this is that Xia's business in China has been doing very badly since 2017, losing hundreds of millions of CNY. So he may not have the ability to continue the cash investment now without borrowing. Worth noting, China stock market commission released 4 announcements on 5/June (the day when this saga emerged, intere
    5 points
  29. If we cant pay, can we not get them repossesssed and sent back to Fulham and Brentford
    5 points
  30. 5 points
  31. Xia wyness and Bruce have all played their part in this farce - all 3 need to go.
    5 points
  32. It’s not 2 weeks since we lost. It makes sense Xia didn’t input cash a single as he assumed we’d go up and would have PL money to wheel and deal with. Wyness has bumped the VAT to make us look bad and it seems Xia has now sorted funding. Hopefully that soon right anyway! Panic over.
    4 points
  33. No I much prefer the clamour to demonise the Owner as a fraud and crook without having any information. More exciting.
    4 points
  34. I am genuinely baffled at how seeing our home grown player fulfill his potential sooner at another club is any sort of lining at all ?
    4 points
  35. No, it is not ironic. Literally. There is nothing ironic about it at all.. No you don't have the worst trade deals ever made, have a word with the native Americans about the deal they got selling their land. No, the people running the Russia investigation not Democrats, they are all Republican. Rosenstein, Mueller, Wray, Comey etc, all Republican. It was started by a Republican, and is being run by Republicans. No it is not a witch hunt, 17 indictments and 5 guilty pleas suggest otherwise. No you're not getting ready to go to the G-7 you are live tweeting Fox News from
    4 points
  36. Well if anything good has come of this it's that I now know aluminium can fall in love
    4 points
  37. Yeah, that one. Campaigned ineffectively for Remain (like Theresa May did), but then acted all leavy and Brexity in terms of whipping his MPs to vote for A50 being triggered, and who punishes his remainy MPs and tries to whip thew Labour Lords to support the Gov't. And has been all Brexity ever since. That useless word removed, yes.
    4 points
  38. It's still sickens me, even now, when I think about that first- half performance. Totally, for me, incomprehensible. I knew as soon as Fulham hit the back of the net, we wasn't coming back. Yes, we had the majority of possession in the second - half, but it was all a bit frantic. If the manager failed with that team, I just can't see how he can be the man to get us where we wish to be.
    4 points
  39. https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/06/07/club-statement-hmrc Club statement. Aston Villa Football Club can confirm that an agreement has been reached with HMRC and the club will continue to fulfil its obligations. The club can also announce that there are no insolvency practitioners or administration advisors working with the club. Owner and Chairman Dr Tony Xia would like to take this opportunity to sincerely thank supporters during this difficult and unsettling time and reassure them plans are now being put in place to move the club forward.
    4 points
  40. 4 points
  41. Like a girlfriend who cheats on you, then cries and tries to emotionally blackmail you. Just **** off mate, I couldn't give a **** how you feel. Stick it up your bollocks.
    4 points
  42. Actually, Jesus Christ is not a bad shout. We need a miracle worker.
    4 points
  43. I found the blondes in question
    4 points
  44. Lets be clear, O'hare is miles off where Grealish is - Talk of him being the replacement is laughable
    4 points
  45. Mate, we'll always have this moment.
    4 points
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