John Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 It looks increasingly likely that we will need cash in the next transfer window to try to land a player or two to keep us up this season but our current custodian does not have a recent track record of spending a great deal of money net in transfer windows so he might be prepared to risk all to balance the books. It seems we need a takeover to change this but the last one fell through as did the one before that. What are the odds of another takeover being rumoured again when season ticket purchase time comes around next season only for that to go the same way as the other 2 did after season tickets have been purchased? Did we ever find out from the club why this last deal broke down? Am I alone in wondering if there ever was a potential deal in place during last or the previous summer? The truth is out there but it seems the club considers we do not need to know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 10, 2015 Moderator Share Posted October 10, 2015 He may have to spend more than his budget just to get rid of this manager.Therein lies the biggest problem - if Lerner can see that Sherwood isn't up to the job, does he hope we get lucky or spend two fortunes he was hoping he'd never have to spend again - one to get rid of the manager and another to find the next one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 **** off Lerner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 10, 2015 Moderator Share Posted October 10, 2015 Do you put £200 worth of new tires on that car you want to sell for £500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Do people really believe that this is a 'big club'? Crystal Palace and Swansea are bigger clubs than us nowadays. History is completely meaningless. We've been rubbish for ages and add absolutely nothing of value to the league apart from decent pies. If I could force myself to support a different team I really would, but I can't. I can't see an end to the shambles of a club this place has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted October 10, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 10, 2015 History is completely meaningless. We've been rubbish for ages and add absolutely nothing of value to the league apart from decent pies. If I could force myself to support a different team I really would, but I can't. I can't see an end to the shambles of a club this place has become.I don't feel that way, but people tend to focus on the history at Villa when times are rough in the present. You gotta have something to hang on to! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post avfc1982am Posted October 10, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2015 Do people really believe that this is a 'big club'? Crystal Palace and Swansea are bigger clubs than us nowadays. History is completely meaningless. We've been rubbish for ages and add absolutely nothing of value to the league apart from decent pies. If I could force myself to support a different team I really would, but I can't. I can't see an end to the shambles of a club this place has become.Spoony sorry but that is crap! History is never meaningless as it is the very essence of any club, the soul if you like. Palace, Swansea, or even Southampton etc are NOT bigger clubs than the VILLA- period. They may well be better run internally and on the pitch at the moment however put us in their positions with continuity throughout the club and our attendances would far excel theirs. Our finances would far outweigh them also as would our general pulling power.Our club has a far higher financial ceiling than any of the 3 clubs mentioned regardless of current situation. We are and will be for the foreseeable future much a bigger club. It just needs managing correctly that's all and decent manager would be a good start.. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Raphael Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 They are better teams, we are the bigger club. We would love to be in Swansea/Southampton/Palace's position right now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grobs Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 We are not a big club anymore. People need to wake up and accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 If we we get relegated the media will be saying "how can such a big club drop out the premier league ". We will always be a big club, we are just missing the success of a big club 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 If we we get relegated the media will be saying "how can such a big club drop out the premier league ". We will always be a big club, we are just missing the success of a big clubIf Asda was run like a corner shop, that is us and the owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 It looks increasingly likely that we will need cash in the next transfer window to try to land a player or two to keep us up this season but our current custodian does not have a recent track record of spending a great deal of money net in transfer windows so he might be prepared to risk all to balance the books. It seems we need a takeover to change this but the last one fell through as did the one before that. What are the odds of another takeover being rumoured again when season ticket purchase time comes around next season only for that to go the same way as the other 2 did after season tickets have been purchased? Did we ever find out from the club why this last deal broke down? Am I alone in wondering if there ever was a potential deal in place during last or the previous summer? The truth is out there but it seems the club considers we do not need to know.. The season ticket conspiracy always makes me chuckle. Does anyone fall for such a ingenious 'trick'!? (P.S If so, PM me, I have some magic beans you might be interested to buy). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) Do people really believe that this is a 'big club'? Crystal Palace and Swansea are bigger clubs than us nowadays. History is completely meaningless. We've been rubbish for ages and add absolutely nothing of value to the league apart from decent pies. If I could force myself to support a different team I really would, but I can't. I can't see an end to the shambles of a club this place has become.Spoony sorry but that is crap! History is never meaningless as it is the very essence of any club, the soul if you like. Palace, Swansea, or even Southampton etc are NOT bigger clubs than the VILLA- period. They may well be better run internally and on the pitch at the moment however put us in their positions with continuity throughout the club and our attendances would far excel theirs. Our finances would far outweigh them also as would our general pulling power.Our club has a far higher financial ceiling than any of the 3 clubs mentioned regardless of current situation. We are and will be for the foreseeable future much a bigger club. It just needs managing correctly that's all and decent manager would be a good start.. We are not a big club anymore. People need to wake up and accept. These are essentially my two conflicting thoughts. Although I get everything you're saying avfc1982am, to me it just isn't relevant. I'm relatively young and so Villa have won nothing in the time I've been supporting them. The same goes for most of my peers. If you weigh in with "Villa are a big club" these days outside of Birmingham and outside of people who were there for the good times, people would just laugh at you. Nottingham Forrest, Leeds United and Newcastle United fans probably think that they're big clubs but I don't see them that way.I will always love and support Aston Villa but the history means little to the present day. It's nice to look back on but we have been on a downward spiral for some time and we just aren't important anymore. That needs to change and will only change if we get a billionaire backer willing to splash some serious cash (such is football now, hooray). Edited October 10, 2015 by Spoony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PongRiddims Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Do you put £200 worth of new tires on that car you want to sell for £500? Interesting analogy OBE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Randy, for all Villa fans this Christmas, can you please gift us the announcement that you have sold the club due to lowering the asking price to an amount deemed more reasonable to the purchaser. A new owner in time for the January transfer window would be fantastic . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Do you put £200 worth of new tires on that car you want to sell for £500? I might if I really wanted to sell it to the extent that I would rather come away with £300 for the deal rather than some loose change or have it left on my hands. I have had cars like that! After how many seasons will the season ticket conspiracy begin to look more likely than not Morley-crosses-to-Withe? After two unknown bidders bite the dust for no given reason at the same time in consecutive seasons will it take a third next summer to do the same? Two is already spooky enough for me to wonder.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 One of the bidders was meant to be a Chinese consortium who Howard Hodgson had been advising. But they apparently pulled away from the deal because of the economic troubles in China. That was according HH in a podcast with Jonny Gould. So I think there was interest and from at least one other group from what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 John, whilst the takeover rumours might be put out there in some cynical attempt to sell season tickets, who is foolish enough to fall for them!? You'd have to be pretty damn stupid to buy a season ticket based on flimsy rumours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donniewyer Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Lerner can't do right in some eyes.Get shut of PL - He did.Back TS in the transfer market with the money that came in - he did.Now he gets slated for not showing a ruthless streak by sacking a manager we all sang the name of when we beat Liverpool 2-1 in the semi... Christ, we are fickle.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 11, 2015 Moderator Share Posted October 11, 2015 Lerner hasn't done much right in the last 6 years.He has done a woeful job of running the club and deserves all the stick he gets.As for fickle. It seems to be a common occurrence that people don't actually get the meaning of the word.People may have sung Sherwood's name at Wembley but they are entitled to change their mind it doesn't make them fickle.If people sung his name, then call for his head then sing his name, yes maybe then it would be a fair accusation but until then its just another example of the misuse of this word. I will always always hate O'Leary for that one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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