brommy Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 At least he got himself featured on today's Football Focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 What's with the chewing gum when he plays Is it to mask the smell of alcohol so the manager doesn't know he was out on the piss the night before 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 3 hours ago, TRO said: Paul I went to a mates 60 th not too long back and Bobby was there .....as fit as a butchers dog. good lad Bobby. Ps sorry for going off topic Cheers for that. Glad to hear. Some good players came out of the 1972 FA Youth cup winning team. Sorry about digressing from Grealish but its still about players that have come through our academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 8 hours ago, srsmithusa said: I truly think we would be lucky to get 2 million $ for him. He's all art and no product to this point. I think he can be more. But he just hasn't shown it. Ever. Patrick Roberts signed for Man City for 12 million a player with hasnt shone in the Championship you would be a horrible businessman to sell Jack for 2 million now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 19 minutes ago, AshVilla said: What's with the chewing gum when he plays Is it to mask the smell of alcohol so the manager doesn't know he was out on the piss the night before He needs to stop that, or he'll bite the tip of his tongue off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) Michael Jordan chewed gum his entire career and he did just fine. Even if he looks a bit silly, it's the one vice i don't mind if he keeps. Might wanna cut down on the drinking and partying thou Edited November 28, 2015 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 30 minutes ago, Zatman said: Patrick Roberts signed for Man City for 12 million a player with hasnt shone in the Championship you would be a horrible businessman to sell Jack for 2 million now I never claimed to be a good business man, and if you think someone would pay 12 million for Jack right now, you're delusional. He is tested, and has shown no end product. Now, would you like to discuss our relative business acumen, or my point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 28, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 28, 2015 3 minutes ago, srsmithusa said: I never claimed to be a good business man, and if you think someone would pay 12 million for Jack right now, you're delusional. He is tested, and has shown no end product. Now, would you like to discuss our relative business acumen, or my point? The only delusional thing here is suggesting that we'd sell Grealish for £2 million The guy will be a star. He's not showing it right now and he needs to be put straight. But his talent is undeniable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanwesty88 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 1 minute ago, srsmithusa said: I never claimed to be a good business man, and if you think someone would pay 12 million for Jack right now, you're delusional. He is tested, and has shown no end product. Now, would you like to discuss our relative business acumen, or my point? I think Jack has at times shown how good he can be. Unofrtunately it's not been consistent enough and his off field antics haven't helped. However he is worth far more than $2m (dollars!?). Why would England are Ireland be squabbling over him if he didn't have potential? Good point about Patrick Roberts Zatman, Roberts hasn't done half of what Jack has and he went for £12m (POUNDS!!). I think you're undervaluing Jack by about 15 times based on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted November 28, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 28, 2015 Dropped from the match day squad. Hope he is in the stands watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 15 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: The only delusional thing here is suggesting that we'd sell Grealish for £2 million The guy will be a star. He's not showing it right now and he needs to be put straight. But his talent is undeniable. And exactly who did that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Fat Frank and John Terry had quite a few drunken escapades earlier in their careers including this... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/1558855.stm Quote Four top Chelsea players have been fined by their club after a drinking binge in a hotel packed with American tourists grieving over the US terror attacks. The incident happened just 24 hours after the attacks and included stripping, swearing and vomiting at the hotel near Heathrow airport, which was full with Americans stranded by flight cancellations, according to the News of the World. The group included England Under 21 stars Frank Lampard, Jody Morris, John Terry and former Chelsea defender Frank Sinclair He has been stupid and let us all down but a little perspective is needed here. Let's hope he learns a valuable lesson this afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted November 28, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 28, 2015 1 hour ago, PaulC said: Cheers for that. Glad to hear. Some good players came out of the 1972 FA Youth cup winning team. Sorry about digressing from Grealish but its still about players that have come through our academy. It's ok, the two of you can have your moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Needs to wake up and start delivering. Look at Duncan Watmore at Sunderland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Watmore is a poor comparison they are from 2 completely different backgrounds. Watmore has a degree in economics and has sensible people used to dealing with money around him. He is also not being relied upon by a desperate fanbase as their shining light or saviour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 8 hours ago, Zatman said: Watmore is a poor comparison they are from 2 completely different backgrounds. Watmore has a degree in economics and has sensible people used to dealing with money around him. He is also not being relied upon by a desperate fanbase as their shining light or saviour He is. Have you seen their message boards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Whether or not Grealish has it in his character to put in that hard graft and show that dedication and determination remains to be seen, but his punishment is misguided SHARES COMMENSubscribe Misguided: Jack Grealish has been dealt with harshly by Aston Villa Seven days ago, referring to the stick Jack Grealish was getting from Irish fans after the Republic’s qualification for Euro 2016 and his struggles with form, I wrote this: “… maybe this is what Grealish needs - a kick up the backside to remind him nothing other than hard graft, dedication and a determination to improve will give him the opportunity to play on the game’s grandest stages.” The kick up the backside was swift in arriving and the sentiments stand. Whether or not Grealish has it in his character to put in that hard graft and show that dedication and determination remains to be seen. But the fullness of time will show that … not a couple of social jaunts in his time off. Mail Online Smile: Grealish on camera during a night out last weekend For all those who get wound up by talent not being matched by application, Jack’s shenanigans – if you can call them that – last weekend were grist to the mill. And there have indeed been signs that Grealish may not be concentrating on football around the clock. Lying sparko and inebriated on a Tenerife pavement was one, a penchant for hippy crack another. But the over-reaction to his 24 hours of socialising has been startling. And a reminder that professional football has become a haven for the po-faced and puritanical. Surely you can be hard-working, dedicated and determined – and still have an evening or two out with pals? It seems not. Neville Williams Punishment: Remi Garde sent Grealish to train with the Under-21s And when Paul Merson is telling you to get on the straight and narrow, you know times have changed. For the duller. Merse toasted Tony Adams’ winner in the 1993 FA Cup semi-final against Spurs with a memorable drinking celebration. Those were the days when footballers were allowed to have fun, a pint and a night out. We don’t know exactly what Grealish got up to in a Manchester nightclub last Saturday, but pulling a silly face for a mobile phone – not long after Villa had been cuffed at Goodison Park – was probably his most heinous crime. Apparently, he carried on “partying” the following day, although reports of him beating anybody up, getting involved in sozzled orgies or anything like that appear to have passed me by. I did read that he was filmed “singing into the camera in an enthusiastic manner” on Saturday night and, the following day – shock, horror – “hosted a gathering involving two blonde women” in the public bar of a very nice Birmingham hotel. Plumb Images/Leicester City FC Bond: Grealish celebrates with former manager Tim Sherwood last season Wow. We’ve found an heir-apparent to the dear, departed Oliver Reed. As wild weekends go, I’m guessing it’s not going to be the template for another instalment of The Hangover. Still, it was enough for Remi Garde to make Grealish train with the under-21s for a couple of days. Exactly what is that supposed to achieve? Will practising with the kids make Grealish a more accomplished player? No. And if you want him to show more maturity, then punish him in a mature way, not give him the equivalent of lines. Garde has only known Grealish for a few weeks and is already denouncing him as unprofessional. Their relationship has not got off to the best of starts. Neville Williams Talent: Will Grealish fulfil his potential? Perhaps Garde is not impressed a picture of Grealish hugging Tim Sherwood still adorns the player’s Twitter feed. Gutted, reads Grealish’s accompanying comment. Not as gutted as he is now, I’d guess. Considering Villa’s predicament, perhaps Grealish was unwise to let his hair down. Perhaps he does need to change his ways. Perhaps he did need that kick up the backside. But regardless of previous, he has been harshly dealt with and portrayed on this occasion. And already Garde and Grealish looks like a combination that will last little longer than a decent night out. And, for Villa, that would be sad. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villas-treatment-jack-grealish-6920103 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 19 hours ago, thabucks said: Fat Frank and John Terry had quite a few drunken escapades earlier in their careers including this... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/1558855.stm He has been stupid and let us all down but a little perspective is needed here. Let's hope he learns a valuable lesson this afternoon Four times I think and counting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kingman said: Whether or not Grealish has it in his character to put in that hard graft and show that dedication and determination remains to be seen, but his punishment is misguided etc etc. Blah blah blah wasn't like this when I were a lad they used to drink pints out of dimpled pint glasses at the snooker don't you know we had characters in the game in the old days people like Paul Merson who was the best in the world jumpers for goalposts blah blah blah Edited November 29, 2015 by HanoiVillan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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