avfc456 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, TB said: For what it's worth - I don't think Garde's wages will decide. The board's support (or lack thereof) might. When he arrived, IIRC he spoke about a medium-term project. That's clearly not just a part of a single season, but hinting at a longer-term rebuild, probably accepting a possible relegation along the way. He comes across as a quietly stubborn character, one that won't want to quit once he has agreed to take on a project. It was reported that he offered to resign at Lyon if the board decided to sell one particular player that he deemed essential to the team. I believe that the only thing that will make him look elsewhere is if he isn't confident that he'll be given the required tools (economical support) by the board to do what he thinks is necessary. He might not work out, of course - and whether he does or not, the board may decide to fire him and look for another manager. Think your spot on- the only way I see him staying is if he's offered a decent war chest to get us promoted and less input from these fools on the board, not sure if he's the right man or not to get us back up but I find it hard not to like him. Seems a classy character and his honest assessments of games are refreshing IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted February 8, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 8, 2016 I'm less worried about Remi leaving and more worried about who we replace him with. Given our current strategy for replacing managers, who is the antithesis of Remi? Pearson? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 1 hour ago, ozvillafan said: I'm less worried about Remi leaving and more worried about who we replace him with. Given our current strategy for replacing managers, who is the antithesis of Remi? Pearson? Ally McCoist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grasshopper Posted February 8, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2016 Remi came in to a planecrash crashing into the north pole. So far he has proved to me 1) he's strong enough to handle players who are not 100% commited 2) has an overall idea of what our squad can and cant do 3) has sorted out GK and defence line up, shuffled the midfield around to find a combination that works (within our limitations 4) the WH game showed me that he can set up tactics (11->10 men -- going 1-0 down) to give us a chance in a game despite the odds being against us. -- I know it didn't, but, had we scored or maintain pressure from that corner eventually scoring and not conceded from it. that would have been some achievement normally reserved for teams like Chelsea, ManC, ManU & Arsenal (normal seasons) 5) can work with players in training (with his coaches) and steadily improve them individually (Lescott, Gana, Veretout, Ayew) and as a team 6) he seems prepared to give the youth a taste of being involved and not just throw them in at the deep end with a view to their long term future 7) he speaks honestly, straight forward and very astutely to the press. His attitude towards his job, the club, the players and fans is second to none. If any one can improve this clubs playing side it is Remi Garde. No doubt about it for me. Considering (in hindsight) the past appointments of Mclose - Just wrong in every aspect Lambert - Lerner eventually broke him, but was not a manager (with staff) capable of training players up a level. Sherwood - pure gobshite charlatan We finally have a genuine managet who could oversee an improvement. The level of improvement will be determined by 2 factors 1) if we stay up - investment/recruitment 2) how much the board/RL back him in keeping : Richards, Okore, Lescott, Amavi, Gana, Vertout, Ayew & Gil and who we buy as a GK & CF. In Remi I trust UTV Villa till I die 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 11 hours ago, ozvillafan said: I'm less worried about Remi leaving and more worried about who we replace him with. Given our current strategy for replacing managers, who is the antithesis of Remi? Pearson? Hopefully it won't be Gary Neville... "After a 1-0 defeat to Real Betis, Valencia have now played nine games under Neville - and haven't won any of them..." http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/valencias-record-under-gary-neville-7327790 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wezbid Posted February 8, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2016 I've never been gay for a manager before, let alone a Villa manager but I can't get enough of Remi, he oozes class just looking at him then he opens that little French gob of his and that accent comes into play and I begin to melt. What makes it even better is that whilst the voice is calming, soothing and elegant it's also delivering frank, honest, open and intelligent discussion. This manager knows what's what, there's no bullshit, he knows our weaknesses and our strengths and is developing a team that is slowly being able to pick up points and aren't easy to beat. If the board have any sense whatsoever they will support him in the summer. Villa have a real asset in Remi, don't **** it up Villa. I'm not holding my breath sadly. 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 7th in the form table for last 5 games. That's pretty impressive compared to where we've come from. The board better bloody back him whatever happens from here on in. We're not going to find anyone better out there, 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 what do you all mean by he better be backed? what level of backing is enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, Richard said: what do you all mean by he better be backed? what level of backing is enough? Stop being pedantic. You know exactly what people mean. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Just now, Richard said: what do you all mean by he better be backed? what level of backing is enough? Whatever Remi deems is needed. He's not stupid enough to try and bankrupt the club with stupid signings but strongly going after his main targets, early, not feeding on scraps and not signing players he doesn't really want would be a decent enough start. He can manage and identify players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 7 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Stop being pedantic. You know exactly what people mean. No I dont. Is 5M backing? 10M? 20M? 30M what level of financial backing would cinstitute backing him in people's opinion. You see I think that varies so when someone says he needs to be backed, I've learned from experience , to now question what that means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I don't have a monetary value on it. Depends where we end up, who we manage to ship out and for how much etc. What I mean is that he is backed to get what he thinks he needs. I don't expect he'll go in with a shopping list of Messi, Neymar and Neuer. He knows where we are and I hope he knows roughly what he's got to spend so, with the transfer committee, they should be identifying targets around that. If he says we need 5 new players to compete and the boards say no, sod off you can only buy one then that would be not backing him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blandy Posted February 8, 2016 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Richard said: No I dont. Is 5M backing? 10M? 20M? 30M what level of financial backing would cinstitute backing him in people's opinion. You see I think that varies so when someone says he needs to be backed, I've learned from experience , to now question what that means The question is fair enough, but I think the context of your suggested response is not quite the full story, if I may say so. Backing a manager isn't (just) about a figure of money. It's about doing what can be done and going the extra mile to support and help someone. It's about listening to their views and valuing and respecting them. It's about appreciating them. It's about trust. Put his judgement in the correct place - i.e. don't impose a policy that restricts his options. So in the summer, there will be a FFP type figure we may "legally" invest. I don't know whether that figure will be 1 million or 20 million, but whatever it is, and within the constraints that the board may be under, they should "back" Garde by being absolutely straight with him and trying to get who he wants. We've seen them try and impose a coach/assistant on him, we're seen not much effort to support him this window just gone, we've seen last summer's transfer policy. These kind of things need improving upon to "back" Garde. I think you're right to be sceptical, but I think it should be about more than a figure being pass/fail for assessing the level of backing. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Richard said: No I dont. Is 5M backing? 10M? 20M? 30M what level of financial backing would cinstitute backing him in people's opinion. You see I think that varies so when someone says he needs to be backed, I've learned from experience , to now question what that means If Remi is able to bring in the players he wants then he will have been backed. There is not a monetary value on it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted February 8, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 8, 2016 If Remi is able to bring in the players he wants then he will have been backed. There is not a monetary value on it I don't think it is that easy. Targets need to be realistic and the player has to want to be here. That said, I don't believe the board has done all it reasonably could to get players in during the last window. Given our position, I'm not sure if that is negligence, stupidity or simple surrender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7392craig Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 It's not just a case of signing players. No doubt we will have players leave in the summer, but the board helping the manager hold onto the ones he thinks will be important next season will also be considered backing. Given our history of selling our best players though, I do have little hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I really hope that Remi can somehow get us to stay up. A miracle if he does. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- If we are PL next season I would like the following: Manager - Remi Garde Staff - Remi's 1st choices GK - New Signing + Bunn + Youth RB - New Signing + Richards LB - Amavi + Cissokho CB - Okore + New Signing + Lescott + Clark + Youth DM - Gana + New Signing MF - Veretout + New Signing + New Signing + Lyden + Youth AM - Gil + Ayew + Adama + Grealish + Youth CF - New Signing + New Signing + Youth 40-80mill spent Either Sell or release: Guzan, Hutton, Bennet, Bacuna, Sanchez, Westwood, Sinclair, Gestede, N'Zog, Gabby & Kozak. How much would we get for this lot? probably not much ---------------------------------------------------------------------- If we are Ch next season I would like the following: Manager - Remi Garde Staff - Remi's 1st choices GK - New Signing + Bunn + Youth RB - Richards + Bacuna LB - Amavi + Cissokho CB - Okore + Lescott + Clark + Youth DM - Gana + Sanchez MF - Veretout + Westwood + Gardner + Lyden AM - Gil + Ayew + Adama + Grealish CF - New Signing + New Signing + Gestede + Youth 10-20mill spent Either Sell or release: Guzan, Hutton, Bennet, Sinclair, N'Zog, Gabby & Kozak. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking at "40-80mill spent" compared to "10-20mill spent" I'm very scared that RL, SH & TF will find the "Championship/spending 10-20mill the more attractive option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wainy316 Posted February 9, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2016 If he does the unthinkable and keeps us up he will achieve the title of Remi God. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Jersey_Villa Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 11 hours ago, Wezbid said: I've never been gay for a manager before, let alone a Villa manager but I can't get enough of Remi, he oozes class just looking at him then he opens that little French gob of his and that accent comes into play and I begin to melt. What makes it even better is that whilst the voice is calming, soothing and elegant it's also delivering frank, honest, open and intelligent discussion. This manager knows what's what, there's no bullshit, he knows our weaknesses and our strengths and is developing a team that is slowly being able to pick up points and aren't easy to beat. If the board have any sense whatsoever they will support him in the summer. Villa have a real asset in Remi, don't **** it up Villa. I'm not holding my breath sadly. I agree, good post. Sadly, I got the distinct impression after we signed ZERO players in the last transfer window and hearing Remi's comments, that things he was promised on taking the job have not happened. I really hope the board don't screw this up, by pissing him off so much that he quits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Can I offer a suggestion ? 1- Everyone is talking about "will Remi stay" and who might replace him. 2- Supporters ( including me ) signed a petition showing our support for him. Bearing all this in mind and knowing how 99.9% of Villa supporters feel about the board and their backing of Remi I would like to propose a petition to the board telling them that they keep Remi as our manager and support him. I would also suggest that ST holders let the board know ( in no uncertain terms ) that they will not renew unless Remi is retained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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