a m ole Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) A lot better at winning the ball than he gets credit for - classy player too, we're lucky to have him really. Interestingly he has less tackles per game, less interceptions per game, less clearances per game, gets dribbled past considerably more per game than Ashely Westwood. all data from whoscored.com just. saying. Edited October 7, 2015 by a m ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 7, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 7, 2015 Yeah but people hate Westwood. I could have a game in midfield for Villa and some people on here would say I was better than Westwood purely because they don't like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Yeah but people hate Westwood. I could have a game in midfield for Villa and some people on here would say I was better than Westwood purely because they don't like him.Thing is I quite like both of them, it just boggles the mind when people will praise a player for one thing and slate another when they're quite even or actually the opposite. It must be the association of us being a poor team for years with Westwoods face and not actually seeing the players merits as an individual. Apologies though, this is the Veretout thread. Good player, hope he comes out his shell a little more. Edited October 7, 2015 by a m ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 7, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 7, 2015 I like Veretout as well. i think he could become a very good player for us.I don't think he's there yet though. As with a lot of our signings, he needs some time to bed in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 A lot better at winning the ball than he gets credit for - classy player too, we're lucky to have him really. Interestingly he has less tackles per game, less interceptions per game, less clearances per game, gets dribbled past considerably more per game than Ashely Westwood. all data from whoscored.com just. saying.Fewer. Just saying.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 7, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 7, 2015 Bet he wishes he chose Leicester now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) A lot better at winning the ball than he gets credit for - classy player too, we're lucky to have him really. Interestingly he has less tackles per game, less interceptions per game, less clearances per game, gets dribbled past considerably more per game than Ashely Westwood. all data from whoscored.com just. saying.Fewer. Just saying.. great way to deflect from losing an argument.incidentally, this article begs to differ with the grammar-nazi's favourite piece of pedantry, but I won't quote it because that would be off-topic. Edited October 7, 2015 by a m ole waiting to use laptop before inserting link 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 A lot better at winning the ball than he gets credit for - classy player too, we're lucky to have him really. Interestingly he has less tackles per game, less interceptions per game, less clearances per game, gets dribbled past considerably more per game than Ashely Westwood. all data from whoscored.com just. saying.Ah. Those Westwood stats again. If only we could convert them into something useful which would have a noticeable effect during the game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) A lot better at winning the ball than he gets credit for - classy player too, we're lucky to have him really. Fairly sure they point directly towards Westwood doing something useful during games lol Edited October 7, 2015 by Bunnski 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 A raw James Milner?That'll do, pig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Yeah but people hate Westwood. I could have a game in midfield for Villa and some people on here would say I was better than Westwood purely because they don't like him.I'd say it just because I like you so much <3 <3 <3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 A lot better at winning the ball than he gets credit for - classy player too, we're lucky to have him really. Interestingly he has less tackles per game, less interceptions per game, less clearances per game, gets dribbled past considerably more per game than Ashely Westwood. all data from whoscored.com just. saying.Fewer. Just saying.. great way to deflect from losing an argument.incidentally, this article begs to differ with the grammar-nazi's favourite piece of pedantry, but I won't quote it because that would be off-topic.What argument? You're the one who started talking about Westwood - I was talking about Veretout, who is generally perceived as a more attacking midfielder. As for the article - yes, it begs to differ but it's not necessarily correct. The truth is, there are no real 'rules' in English grammar - there is what is generally accepted as being correct and that changes with the times too. Less will more than likely become the catch-all adverb for both countable and uncountable nouns but for now it's not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 A lot better at winning the ball than he gets credit for - classy player too, we're lucky to have him really. Interestingly he has less tackles per game, less interceptions per game, less clearances per game, gets dribbled past considerably more per game than Ashely Westwood. all data from whoscored.com just. saying. Ah. Those Westwood stats again. If only we could convert them into something useful which would have a noticeable effect during the game. Tackles, interceptions and clearances have a notable effect during the game unless you're deliberately not noticing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 A lot better at winning the ball than he gets credit for - classy player too, we're lucky to have him really. Interestingly he has less tackles per game, less interceptions per game, less clearances per game, gets dribbled past considerably more per game than Ashely Westwood. all data from whoscored.com just. saying.Well lets give Veretout 3 seasons in the Premier League and compare then. You can tell his potential will easily surpass Westwood at his best. Whether we see it or not is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 A lot better at winning the ball than he gets credit for - classy player too, we're lucky to have him really. Interestingly he has less tackles per game, less interceptions per game, less clearances per game, gets dribbled past considerably more per game than Ashely Westwood. all data from whoscored.com just. saying.Fewer. Just saying.. great way to deflect from losing an argument.incidentally, this article begs to differ with the grammar-nazi's favourite piece of pedantry, but I won't quote it because that would be off-topic.What argument? You're the one who started talking about Westwood - I was talking about Veretout, who is generally perceived as a more attacking midfielder. As for the article - yes, it begs to differ but it's not necessarily correct. The truth is, there are no real 'rules' in English grammar - there is what is generally accepted as being correct and that changes with the times too. Less will more than likely become the catch-all adverb for both countable and uncountable nouns but for now it's not. I know all this, which is why I'm ok with using it. I don't know why you brought it up.As for argument, well that was the wrong choice of words. I should have said you were deflecting from me pointing out your hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 What hypocrisy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Should have gone to Leicester. Play for a manager who has the slighest clue to develop and use him. Tactics Tim has already ruined him I fear. The 8m Berson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 17, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2015 Please bring Cleverley back, please.This post could be written on any other midfielder thread too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Still think he'll become a very good player. Hopefully for us. We've seen it a million times before, he needs time but we can't afford that because we have a shit team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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