Villarocker Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 His positioning is poor most of the time. He's cost us this season as much as a fit Vlaar did last season. I'd rather have a fit Vlaar though, and that's saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claretman Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 He's a bit too rash in his decision making and positional play for me. However, he's still our best defender at the moment and at least has some passion. I'd rather see him at right back then his surges forward might be a bit more productive than Hutton running into blind alleys constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 By far our best defender. Some of the passes he was making were very incisive as well... Not one for moving players, but could see him playing DM.. If (and it's a very big if) we had other players to play CB. Unfortunately we don't. It'll be a shame for him to lead this team when they go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Its more pathetic that our most creative player is the **** centre half One thing I wont do with Richards is question his commitment and his celebration meant a lot to him though that goal has been coming for a long time 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 He must be very frustrated that he chose us now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I think he is wasted at Centre half. He could seriously boss a game as a box to box midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 you guys are massively over rating his ability to play in midfield. The reason why he could play those through balls / make forward runs because cb's are the ones who get pressed the least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 He was certainly up for the game, and scored a very nice goal. Probably, the second best player on the park. Poor for the first goal, as he tracked Ighaol, when a step out would of put him offside. He stepped out for second goal, but did a much of nothing, which was followed up Hutton's pass into the bottom corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 3 hours ago, villarocker said: His positioning is poor most of the time. He's cost us this season as much as a fit Vlaar did last season. I'd rather have a fit Vlaar though, and that's saying something. I'd rather have an injured Vlaar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lexicon Posted November 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2015 I don't see how it could be possible for him to have had a good game. He's the captain and the guy who should be organising the players around him - all the goals we conceded were defensive cock-ups. Goal 1 - Goal 2 - Goal 3 Completely owned by Ighalo for the first goal, ends up sliding in unnecessarily (yet again) and the man he was supposed to be marking scores. An absolute spectator for the second goal, just watched the ball go past him - he doesn't stick to his man, he doesn't make a challenge because he's poorly positioned. Third goal - initially loses his man, manages to get a block in and then just sits there watching us Deeney loses his marker (Richardson), and leaps over an unsuspecting Clark. Inspirational. What a fantastic performance. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 For the 2nd goal, if Hutton had dropped back with Clark and Richardson, I don't think he would have give up the O.G.^^^ But I agree, Richards wasn't as great as many have made out. Very strong coming through a player to win a ball, very poor when it comes to organizing the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 He cannot organise a defence right now. It may come with more experience of playing CB but it'll be too late for us. For the first goal, isn't that Richardson looking along the line and playing Ighalo on-side? That's the issue for me with that goal. Second goal, Richards charges out to try to block a shot so Hutton needed to drop off on the cover and, Clark should have got tighter to his man. Third goal was disgraceful from Clark. If you're defending a ball coming out of the air in your own box you get up to meet it, you don't let it drop to you. Also, did Richardson give him a shout to let him know Deeney was running in behind him? All round poor defensive show that would have been far worse if not for the great saves of the far too overworked Guzan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Will be worth 3 or 4 million next summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 31 minutes ago, Richard said: I Will be worth 3 or 4 million next summer I wouldn't sell him then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I agree with Lexicon, his defensive performance was abysmal, how can anyone say he had a good game when we shipped 3 horrendous goals at home to WATFORD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 7 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I agree with Lexicon, his defensive performance was abysmal, how can anyone say he had a good game when we shipped 3 horrendous goals at home to WATFORD. There seems to be a group of people that think we're constantly putting in good performances, and are really unlucky to be where we are. Some of our players could come out with their boots tied together and walk in circles all day and there would be people suggesting they turned in a decent shift. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted November 29, 2015 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2015 Or people have a different opinion to you. Blaming Richards for the third goal is hilarious. That tells you everything you need to know. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I think a massive worry we have right now is that our backline is incredibly experienced, even Clark has a lot of experience, yet they look like 4 individuals rather than a defensive unit. I think Richards is a good player but he isn't an organiser or a leader, yes he is vocal and passionate but there is more to it than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 1 minute ago, samjp26 said: I think a massive worry we have right now is that our backline is incredibly experienced, even Clark has a lot of experience, yet they look like 4 individuals rather than a defensive unit. I think Richards is a good player but he isn't an organiser or a leader, yes he is vocal and passionate but there is more to it than that. Whilst Richards is experienced player, he is not an experienced centre back - this is basically his first season playing in the position. He has commitment and passion but he's not a particularly good centre back at the moment and certainly can't organise the defence, which is what he is being asked to do. His positioning is very weak so we can't really expect him to know where other players should be when he doesn't know where he should be himself! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 22 minutes ago, picicata said: Whilst Richards is experienced player, he is not an experienced centre back - this is basically his first season playing in the position. He has commitment and passion but he's not a particularly good centre back at the moment and certainly can't organise the defence, which is what he is being asked to do. His positioning is very weak so we can't really expect him to know where other players should be when he doesn't know where he should be himself! I imagine that Vlaar and Richards would've been a good combo, I think Richards is being relied on to be the "senior" CB whereas really he should have one next to him. I guess we have Lescott but his legs are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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