RotaxMax125 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I think so i.m.o. He effectivley kept us in the league last year with numerous 0-0 draws i.e against Baggies, Sunderland Fulham etc. I support Brad but 14 goals in 2 games! If Given was dropped for 3 against Everton then on paper a change in keeper now should not warrant thinking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Yes agree with this idea . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onje_villa Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Is this a joke? Yes I know he's shipped a fair few but the man's been our MOTM in virtually every game this season. Don't forget he has made world-class saves in the last two games and also stopped a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Can't blame Guzan for a shit Defence. We could have Casillas in goal and we would still concede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Guzan's been fine. It's not his fault we've shipped 12 goals in 2 games it's the players in front of him. Were it not for Guzan we'd be doing even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 The last thing our young/ inexperienced/ shite defence need behind them is Shay 'Flappy' Given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 He was aguably our man of the match vs Spurs!!! Absolutely not, he's been one of our best players this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotaxMax125 Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 Is this a joke? Yes I know he's shipped a fair few but the man's been our MOTM in virtually every game this season. Don't forget he has made world-class saves in the last two games and also stopped a penalty. What I mean is we are very much lacking experience at the back. Ok Brads 28, but he's not played a lot of first team football. We have a former International keeper sat on the bench, who has not dissapointed at any club he has played for throughout his career. I think he could at least steady the ship with our defence for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Guzans confidence may be gone after shipping 12. Just gives him a breather if his heads gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 No chance. Until Brad throws one in to cap a disastrous personal performance, he's fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Guzans confidence may be gone after shipping 12. Just gives him a breather if his heads gone. Yeah because dropping him is going to do the world of good for his confidence. What I mean is we are very much lacking experience at the back. Ok Brads 28, but he's not played a lot of first team football. We have a former International keeper sat on the bench, who has not dissapointed at any club he has played for throughout his career. I think he could at least steady the ship with our defence for the time being. So basically we should just put Given back in because he has more experience? Guzan has been fine and has been the only player to come out of the last two games with any kind of dignity. And how would Given be able to steady the defence? He doesn't even come off his line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 28, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted December 28, 2012 The 12 goal maulings can't be attributed to Guzan, in actuality he's about the only player to come out with any credit from those games. I would genuinely fear that the scoresheet would have been worse with Given in goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Guzan has been our best player which says alot considering the scorelines and performances. Terrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I wish this was the cure for our defensive wows but its not our problems run way deeper than that and are not going to be so easily fixed. Guzan for me as arguably been our best player this season. We conceded 12 in the last two games but remarkably if it wasn't for him it could have been far more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 He has player of the season wrapped up. It shows how piss poor of a team we actually are. It's quite surprising as well considering I'm constantly told things are so much better this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 He has player of the season wrapped up. It shows how piss poor of a team we actually are. It's quite surprising as well considering I'm constantly told things are so much better this year. In this thread? Or are you just bringing it up for no reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Are you having a **** laugh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepDish Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 No way. The problem is the players in front of Guzan. Just watched some analysis of our play before the Tottenham goals. It war so terrible. Goal 1) First El Ahmadi just jogs without picking up players and not pressuring. Then there are five Villa players around two Tottenham (bad organisation) players and the ball is being played back to Naughton. Even though El Ahmadi is just near him, he is allowed to play a through ball to Defoe who is suddenly alone with Guzan. Lowton slept when the ball was passed. Goal 2) First Benteke can play a 10 meter pass out to Ireland on the penalty area, but he misses with a couple of meters. Then Ciaran Clark has three good options: He can head or play the ball to three Villa players in good unmarked positions. He choose to head the ball straight forward right into the legs of a Tottenham player moving forward. Then Bennett has two good options: He can aither play the ball out for a throw in or play it back to Guzan. He tries a pass to the crowded middle of the defence, where we lose the ball and suddenly Bale is free vs Guzan. Goal 3) Both Albrighton and El Ahmadi seems to have control over their player, but when he get the ball, they are suddenly behind him. Sloppy defending all over the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 If we stick given back in goal we will concede from set pieces again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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