DCJonah Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Didn't even enter my mind to blame him tbh, it was a brilliant freekick. It looked very easy from my view because of the wall. I'll need to see it again though but first impression is that it was his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 He rolled it out a lot today but nobody screwed up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 He also didn't set up his wall good enough and cost us a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Completely to blame for the first, poor positioning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I think I just need to stay out of this thread as it just makes me angry. Brad Guzan is officially the Aston Villa Scapegoat for 2015/16 season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I don't think he is. Other pundits, with no connection to villa or Guzan, said the palace goal was a poor decision so clearly it's not just making Guzan a scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 So what does everyone think of Guzans mistake yesterday that led to Sinclairs 2nd goal? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Surely all keepers should just stand in the middle of the goal for free kicks, it's always risky leaving such a wide gap and hoping the wall will just block it. It was a great strike and he couldn't get across in time. If they stand in the middle everyone would just smash the ball the other side and avoid the wall altogether. Keepers would be being beaten on 'their' side all the time and would be getting crucified on forums like this. You only have to look at the reaction when a keeper anticipates the shot and makes a slight movement then gets beaten on his side to see that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 30, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2015 As far as I could see the ball had to go over the wall for the goal. So it was positioned correctly. Guzan's position was textbook. You don't stand in the middle of the goal for freekicks. You cover the side that the wall isn't. If the ball went round the wall then you could argue Guzan was at fault. If it goes over then I'm not sure how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I was right behind it, I didn't think the wall was off at all. It was a brilliant strike. Blaming Amavi for fouling a player is ridiculous too. Shit happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I was right behind it, I didn't think the wall was off at all. It was a brilliant strike. Blaming Amavi for fouling a player is ridiculous too. Shit happens. I would suspect that those within the club would vehemently argue otherwise. You can't affect the quality of a set piece, if they strike a good free kick there isn't that much a goal keeper can do. However you can affect whether you give a free kick away, in a bad position. It is avoidable. Although it's not a heinous mistake. As for the goal, I don't blame Guzan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) If our players never made errors in judgment, committed fouls or made mistakes then i'd question whether or not they were of this world. Question obvious errors in judgment by all means but not stuff like the free kick yesterday. Surely you just have to hold your hands up there and say M'Vila has pulled one out of the bag. Edited August 30, 2015 by sexbelowsound 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I was right behind it, I didn't think the wall was off at all. It was a brilliant strike. Blaming Amavi for fouling a player is ridiculous too. Shit happens.I would suspect that those within the club would vehemently argue otherwise. You can't affect the quality of a set piece, if they strike a good free kick there isn't that much a goal keeper can do. However you can affect whether you give a free kick away, in a bad position. It is avoidable. Although it's not a heinous mistake. As for the goal, I don't blame Guzan. I agree. I worded it badly. Fouling somebody is not "good" but it is part and parcel of the game, as is giving the ball away from time to time. If it is persistent then yes it becomes a problem, but you can't have players afraid to make the challenge in a situation like that. Amavi was beaten and then Guzan was beaten. Being beaten does not necessarily equate to having made a mistake, IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 30, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2015 Somebody actually blamed Guzan for the second goal too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Somebody actually blamed Guzan for the second goal too In the match thread? Yeah I noticed that as well. Something along the lines of "Can Guzan save anything?!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Wasn't it deflected over him anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 30, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2015 Somebody actually blamed Guzan for the second goal too In the match thread? Yeah I noticed that as well. Something along the lines of "Can Guzan save anything?!" No in this thread actually. Crazy. He's going to get blamed for everything now. Like I said before. VT has turned. I don't think he'll ever win it back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I think it's a bit much to say VT has turned. The palace goal criticism was justified and its only one or two who have been crazy enough to blame him for the 2nd goal. After watching MOTD the free kick was better than I first thought but I still don't think the wall was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 It was a brilliant free kick. Absolute rocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 It was a brilliant free kick. Absolute rocket. It was but it didn't seem like he had to curl it much or get it up and down quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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