DCJonah Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I don't care about the owner. Well that's good. But I do and it was a big part of my reasoning. You don't get to ignore the parts of my reason to suit your argument. I told you why.Several other players have also defended the manager, so your answer of "no other players have said it" doesn't work. Why? Because you say so? Brilliant. Have any other players told us we can't criticise the owner AND the manager?So you've admitted it's difficult for Guzan, you've been asked 5 times to give an alternative that he could have said and you still can't come up with anything. So what was Brad meant to do when asked the question? I don't care. Is it impossible for him not to tell us we can't criticise the owner AND manager? He has no other choices when speaking to the press? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted January 12, 2015 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2015 He has other choices. He could say no comment, which would be odd. Probably wouldn't be looked upon favourably by his employers. He could say he disapproves of the owner/manager and probably be dropped, or cause a feud or whatever. Or he could defend his employers. Just like I would if I was being interviewed by the media. Just as you would. Just as anybody would, especially a professional athlete who's every word will get overanalysed. Again, when asked the question, any player in the team would have said the same thing. Any player for any club would. This is a total non story, and you're making a mountain out of a molehill. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I haven't read what Guzan has said but maybe he was just telling the truth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 But like I said after telling us we can't criticise the owner last year and now this now he's gone down in my books. Superb player though. I might be missing it, but I can't see any mention of the owner in the article at all. Was there another version of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 But like I said after telling us we can't criticise the owner last year and now this now he's gone down in my books. Superb player though. I might be missing it, but I can't see any mention of the owner in the article at all. Was there another version of it? He said it last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) He has other choices. He could say no comment, which would be odd. Probably wouldn't be looked upon favourably by his employers. He could say he disapproves of the owner/manager and probably be dropped, or cause a feud or whatever. Or he could defend his employers. Just like I would if I was being interviewed by the media. Just as you would. Just as anybody would, especially a professional athlete who's every word will get overanalysed. Again, when asked the question, any player in the team would have said the same thing. Any player for any club would. This is a total non story, and you're making a mountain out of a molehill. A mountain out of a molehill? My original post simply said I'd gone off him. Hardly making a mountain out of molehill. Edited January 12, 2015 by DCJonah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) Having read the article it sounds like he's blaming himself (despite being one of our best players) rather than anyone else, that kind of attitude has probably played a big part in making him the player that he is. Edited January 12, 2015 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post P3te Posted January 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2015 Having read the article it sounds like he's blaming himself (despite being one of our best players) rather than anyone else, that kind of attitude has probably played a big part in making him the player that he is. And he's dead right. Useless git hasn't even scored this season 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 12, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2015 He has other choices. He could say no comment, which would be odd. Probably wouldn't be looked upon favourably by his employers. He could say he disapproves of the owner/manager and probably be dropped, or cause a feud or whatever. Or he could defend his employers. Just like I would if I was being interviewed by the media. Just as you would. Just as anybody would, especially a professional athlete who's every word will get overanalysed. Again, when asked the question, any player in the team would have said the same thing. Any player for any club would. This is a total non story, and you're making a mountain out of a molehill. A mountain out of a molehill? My original post simply said I'd gone off him. Hardly making a mountain out of molehill. OK, maybe I used the wrong phrase. You're going off someone for absolutely no reason. Which obviously can't be helped. Its your opinion. But your standards for people are ridiculously high as everyone would have said the same as him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Just read this thread. My god, some people eh. It's just not worth getting in to a debate with certain people on this site, they clearly don't have emotional reasoning abilities. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Just read this thread. My god, some people eh. It's just not worth getting in to a debate with certain people on this site, they clearly don't have emotional reasoning abilities. Guess that's aimed at me. I'm fine thanks. All I simply said was I'd gone off him. I'm sure you have different reasons for why you like or dislike certain players, this was one that made me go off Guzan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Just read this thread. My god, some people eh. It's just not worth getting in to a debate with certain people on this site, they clearly don't have emotional reasoning abilities. Guess that's aimed at me. I'm fine thanks. All I simply said was I'd gone off him. I'm sure you have different reasons for why you like or dislike certain players, this was one that made me go off Guzan. Christian Benteke once said that he liked Paul Lambert :o Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bradarmstrong_ Posted February 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2015 Brad wrote a piece about his experiences in English football. Good read http://www.theplayerstribune.com/1/ 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Great read, I love Guzan, one of the few plus points of the last few years. It was very different back then, 5 years ago. Guzan was very shaky in both legs against Blackburn and I think most on here expected Friedel to play and I wasn't surprised to see Guzan dropped. No problem now if we fluke our way to the FA cup final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Excellent read. Seems like an erudite guy. I'm not always 100% convinced by him, but I don't doubt his workrate or determination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 A fish says glub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 No problem now if we fluke our way to the FA cup final. Except you would assume Given would play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 13, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 13, 2015 Brad wrote a piece about his experiences in English football. Good read http://www.theplayerstribune.com/1/ Excellent. Didn't realise the League Cup Final was so significant for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 great article, still think it was absolute stinking man management by O'Neill that day probably wouldnt have made a difference to end result 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killeen30 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 How long does Brad have left on his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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