walesavfc Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Would like to introduce to people who don`t know about Common Law,becoming a Freeman of the land and about where Mortages/Loans really come from. there is so much information out there and if you can read alot you will be amazed at how corrupt britain and the corporate world is...but you can do things about it i will just show snipits for now. sites of reference http://www.ukcolumn.org/ http://www.fmotl.com/ http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/ Common Law / Freeman of the land, first you need to understand Statutes are merely invitations to enter a contract, and are only legally enforceable if one enters into the contract consensually. Otherwise, statute laws are not applicable. the law we live in is Statute Law,statute law is a contract, and that individuals can therefore opt out of statute law, choosing instead to live under what is called "common" (case) and "natural" laws. Natural laws require only that individuals do not harm others, do not damage the property of others, and do not use "fraud or mischief" in contracts. you can opt to do this by issuing "notice of understanding and intent and claim of right" How Mortgages are created, Brief first you need to understand how a cheque works and how loan agreements work. A loan agreement is a cheque . you sign your loan agreement and they CASH your cheque with the treasury or the Bank of England. So did your mortage company/Bank lend you anything ? NO they didn`t, there are loads more they do with the deeds to like sell them on etc, they make loads of money off your signature. There is lots of free information on the interweb if you want to read and a few sites above Discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 30, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) From the very vague things I can remember reading about it years ago, the 'Freeman of the land' stuff is bollocks. EDIT - Yep, nonsense. Try it in court and your going down with some additional time for contempt if the judge is feeling particularly vexed. Edited January 30, 2015 by Chindie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Freeman of the land stuff is great purely because of the idiocy people who buy into it spout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walesavfc Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 From the very vague things I can remember reading about it years ago, the 'Freeman of the land' stuff is bollocks. What part or parts was bollocks ? there are lots of people waking up to it, loads of vids on youtube etc some are just people wanting to freeload allso but when you read/watch genuine people who are trying to change things for the better then your whole view of it could change. There are some great stories of people who have changed things, like Karl Lens who is a freeman of the land and he had a down sydrome baby, he refused help cos he was making enough money to raise his child the right way and support his child himself, he had his child took away for 6 years cos he refused, fighting them through civil courts and he got no where cos the establishment can tie you in knots. he took them to whats called queens bench (common law court) he got his child back by the end of the day. Common aw ain`t just about Travelling (driving) about without having to have tax etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walesavfc Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 Freeman of the land stuff is great purely because of the idiocy people who buy into it spout or people who work in banks/financial institutions spout and get away with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I think you've been had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walesavfc Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 I think you've been had. don`t understand how i could of been had ? it hasn`t cost me a penny to read the info that is out there free on the internet i do understand that it is hard to comprehend how the corporate world works to look after itself. Jebus even a mortage itself is illegal because its illegal to get a mortgage on a property you don`t allready own (thier rules, civil) But i don`t expect many to understand or defend what i have put, but if i get 3 or 4 who read the info in the links i will be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 30, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2015 From the very vague things I can remember reading about it years ago, the 'Freeman of the land' stuff is bollocks. What part or parts was bollocks ? there are lots of people waking up to it, loads of vids on youtube etc some are just people wanting to freeload allso but when you read/watch genuine people who are trying to change things for the better then your whole view of it could change. There are some great stories of people who have changed things, like Karl Lens who is a freeman of the land and he had a down sydrome baby, he refused help cos he was making enough money to raise his child the right way and support his child himself, he had his child took away for 6 years cos he refused, fighting them through civil courts and he got no where cos the establishment can tie you in knots. he took them to whats called queens bench (common law court) he got his child back by the end of the day. Common aw ain`t just about Travelling (driving) about without having to have tax etc It's based on a (willful?) misunderstanding of the law. I have no idea who Carl Lens is but the Queens Bench isn't some miraculous revelation. It's the top division of the High Court. Nothing earth shattering about that. If this bloke choose to take his case to that level and won, good for him, the system worked out for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walesavfc Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) From the very vague things I can remember reading about it years ago, the 'Freeman of the land' stuff is bollocks. What part or parts was bollocks ? there are lots of people waking up to it, loads of vids on youtube etc some are just people wanting to freeload allso but when you read/watch genuine people who are trying to change things for the better then your whole view of it could change. There are some great stories of people who have changed things, like Karl Lens who is a freeman of the land and he had a down sydrome baby, he refused help cos he was making enough money to raise his child the right way and support his child himself, he had his child took away for 6 years cos he refused, fighting them through civil courts and he got no where cos the establishment can tie you in knots. he took them to whats called queens bench (common law court) he got his child back by the end of the day. Common aw ain`t just about Travelling (driving) about without having to have tax etc It's based on a (willful?) misunderstanding of the law. I have no idea who Carl Lens is but the Queens Bench isn't some miraculous revelation. It's the top division of the High Court. Nothing earth shattering about that. If this bloke choose to take his case to that level and won, good for him, the system worked out for him. Yes and queens bench operates under Common Law Edited January 30, 2015 by walesavfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Perhaps before we all post funny pictures of tin foil hats you could please explain what your point is. I've clicked on each of those links and tried to have a little read, but they were a little incoherent. Any chance of an idiot's or dummies guide to your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted January 30, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2015 I like this thread. Utter nonsense but fun nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walesavfc Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 Perhaps before we all post funny pictures of tin foil hats you could please explain what your point is. I've clicked on each of those links and tried to have a little read, but they were a little incoherent. Any chance of an idiot's or dummies guide to your point? maybe this guy will explane it better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgC7k66w1oo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Well, I'm convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 30, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2015 So, let me get this right.... you definitely haven't been had. Because you read it on the internet. R-i-i-i-ght, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I think you've been had. don`t understand how i could of been had ? it hasn`t cost me a penny to read the info that is out there free on the internet you've been had because you believe what you're reading is actually real, and actually stands up in court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walesavfc Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 30, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted January 30, 2015 The idea you can just reject statue law is absolutely absurd. If that were true in essence it means you could reject most criminal law. Sound a bit like nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I watched the whole video. He said a lot of words quite fast and some of them sounded clever. But I don't think he actually came out with one coherent 'fact' that was of any earthly use. I googlied him too, got a lot of fans on David Icke's forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walesavfc Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 i am not trying to change anyones views btw. just trying to share somethings that i think are eye opening when you delve deaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ads Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 He seems like a confused chap on that video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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