StefanAVFC Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I see your point. I'm not sure either are expansive enough though to play in a 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I see your point. I'm not sure either are expansive enough though to play in a 2. They could/might be with a decent manager in charge. Westwood has the ability to hit a decent 25 yard pass, he just doesn't do it often enough. I'm going to change my tack slightly as say I'd like to see what he can do when he hasn't got the utterly ineffective Gabby and Weimann playing as widemen in a forward three, and a manager who hasn't got a creative bone in his body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 27, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2014 Such a meh player. The formation we play doesn't get the best out of the players we have. Cleverley and Westwood in a 4-4-2 with Gabby and Benteke up front would look like different players in my opinion, instead of the utter non-entities they're both reduced to at present. I agree with your first point, but not with your second. Firstly I think Westwood and Cleverley are too similar. And secondly I think neither are good enough, attacking wise, to succeed unless they're alongside who can do that part of the game instead. I think we'd look a lot better team at the moment if one of Westwood or Cleverley was an attacking midfielder instead. We'd then have Sanchez to defend, Player X to attack and Cleverley/Westwood to link the two together. It works in my head anyway! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) I think he has done okay but by far the biggest thing we have to thank him for is him bulking at joining us permanently and therefore scuppering an 8 mill deal. He has looked about 4 or 5 mill away from being an 8 million pound player. Edited November 27, 2014 by markavfc40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefa3011 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Such a meh player. The formation we play doesn't get the best out of the players we have. Cleverley and Westwood in a 4-4-2 with Gabby and Benteke up front would look like different players in my opinion, instead of the utter non-entities they're both reduced to at present. I agree with your first point, but not with your second. Firstly I think Westwood and Cleverley are too similar. And secondly I think neither are good enough, attacking wise, to succeed unless they're alongside who can do that part of the game instead. I think we'd look a lot better team at the moment if one of Westwood or Cleverley was an attacking midfielder instead. We'd then have Sanchez to defend, Player X to attack and Cleverley/Westwood to link the two together. It works in my head anyway! That's exactly what I have told any United fans who have asked me about Cleverley. He's an engine in the middle of the park that does what he does well. He's an upgrade on Westwood imo, and one should be played but not both. Problem is that Delph is our midfielder with the most forward drive, and he's been out injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AVTuco Posted November 29, 2014 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2014 A very good game by Cleverley. Played well together with Cole in the first half when they were told to go forward. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Best performance from him so far, played very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Best performance from him so far, played very well. Agree, Cole brought it out of him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 He was great today and that's what he is capable of. Sign him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 No disagreement from me, I thought he was excellent, especially going forward in the first half. The reason I prefer him to Westwood is that while they can do similar roles, with Cleverley you know that he has more flexibility and can actually open things up a bit going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 His best performance for us today. Hopefully he can build on it and start to have more of a positive impact on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I think for where we are at the moment he's as good as we can hope for. He'll get better as well, I think he'd be an excellent permanent signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 He'll be off to somewhere like Everton in the Summer. Great squaddie for them. With players like Westwood and him in the side there's no reason we can't play some decent football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 30, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2014 I haven't seen the game, but I've been banging on for weeks that players like Cleverley and Westwood will perform better if they have somebody else in midfield doing the creating for them. So they don't have to be relied upon to do that and can get on with their own game. So I'm not surprised there is some praise knocking around for Cleverley in the game where we actually played an attacking midfielder (Cole) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 He was great today and that's what he is capable of. Sign him up. One game in what, 10, and you are impressed. Madness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 He was great today and that's what he is capable of. Sign him up. One game in what, 10, and you are impressed. Madness. I think he's played well for us plenty of times - with a little dip in form that he recovered from a couple of games back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 If he can't impress vs. the likes of Burnley (sounds like he did OK) then I'd be very worried. Still would like to see him prove it against better sides before I'm convinced that he would be worth signing in the future. Let's wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted November 30, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2014 Best performance from him so far, played very well. Agree, Cole brought it out of him Yeah Cole was key to him playing better because it gave him someone to pass to! Cole's movement off the ball was great. Cleverly can't play those nice littel passes between the lines if no-one has made the run to get there first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrim Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I can see him getting a goal soon. He's had a few decent chance from the edge of the area in the last few games and usually gets them on target but close to the keeper. One has to come right soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 he had a good game yesterday burnley weren't really closing down the ball quick enough like 80% of the other premier league teams hence he had more time on the ball but I wouldn't sign him up even after yesterday haven't been impressed overall if I'm honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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