KSV Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Season tickets flying off the shelves now. What salary would he be on? Considering hes got alot of experience.. We will probably give him 30k? What a waste of money. Just promote Donacien if you cant sign anyone decent. This is a shambles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grobs Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I don't think this will be that bad we certainly will have more physical strength than what we do with baker and clark. Hopefully he shocks us all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark8691 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 The phrase 'Drop the Dead Donkey' has a new found significance for me if this did happen. Still, we do seem more intent on comedy entertainment rather than competitive. Saw him a few times for Fulham last season and he was beyond awful. Yea, let's take an outcast from the worst defence in the league last season. Should help improve ours shouldn't it! Hopefully the rumour is just rubbish. But we sure seem attracted to it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanO Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I don't think this will be that bad we certainly will have more physical strength than what we do with baker and clark. Hopefully he shocks us all Well its shocked me, beggars can't be choosers comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 It also depends on how long he signs for. If its a 1 year deal. Stop gap signing fine. ( I doubt he will be happy with that) If he signs for 3-4 years.. then we have another lump to get off the wage bill in a few years. Randy will have learnt nothing. Please just accept the best offer and get the hell out of our club Randy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeps Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 This guy is awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 As per usual, the only thing to do is give him a chance if we sign him. The usual slagging off before a ball is kicked is such a counter-productive broken record. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 As per usual, the only thing to do is give him a chance if we sign him. The usual slagging off before a ball is kicked is such a counter-productive broken record. The same was said when we signed Heskey too. We are talking about a 29 year old here, not a youngster who might get better. The fact is that Senderos has been continually crap wherever he has played throughout his career and there is no reason why that will change now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 As per usual, the only thing to do is give him a chance if we sign him. The usual slagging off before a ball is kicked is such a counter-productive broken record. The same was said when we signed Heskey too. We are talking about a 29 year old here, not a youngster who might get better. The fact is that Senderos has been continually crap wherever he has played throughout his career and there is no reason why that will change now. Was it helpful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 If he comes in he's a stop gap. Okore and vlaar are first choice and Clark and Baker still have potential to be decent IMO, but we've shown this season that relying on them isn't a great idea. We've now got 5 CBS, 4 of which have a good deal of experience. Senderos as a cheap 4/5th choice is fine with me 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted June 3, 2014 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 I don't know if there is anything in this link. If there is then given the circumstances and constraints then I think it would be a decent signing. I would much rather have had him in the side than Clark or Baker neither if whom I rate at all. I'm really not sure what people are expecting this summer in terms of transfers but people really should take into account the overall circumstances of the club when considering the merits of players linked. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 As per usual, the only thing to do is give him a chance if we sign him. The usual slagging off before a ball is kicked is such a counter-productive broken record. The same was said when we signed Heskey too. We are talking about a 29 year old here, not a youngster who might get better. The fact is that Senderos has been continually crap wherever he has played throughout his career and there is no reason why that will change now. And there have been plenty of others players who were written off before signing who then did ok. It annoys me how every time somebody suggests that a player should be given time or that we should wait and see about something people automatically come back with "well the same was said about X and it turned out to be true". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Aston Villa under Randy Lerner. This is the level he's dropped us to now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Not that I'd be particularly overjoyed about this signing, but it's not as if this is some kind of new level of shitness. We've signed worse players before, even when we were doing relatively well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Aston Villa under Randy Lerner. This is the level he's dropped us to now. what other 4th/5th choice centre backs do you reckon we should be in for who'd come to us for the pittance we're willing to pay? If the guy is first choice all season, i'll be very concerned and angry, but that's almost definitely not going to happen. He's backup, for cheap, to cover for the 2 mistake prone youngsters we were forced to play for great swathes of last season. We've not, to the best of my knowledge, got any kids in the academy in that position ready to step up, so he's not stunting anyone's progress, while okore is back from injury and should be raring to go for august. If we sign him, it's not exactly a great signing by any stretch - he's clearly not very good, but he's there for backup, hopefully for a season, and then he'll be on his merry way. If Okore and Vlaar stay fit I'll be amazed if the guy plays more than Holt did 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 And there have been plenty of others players who were written off before signing who then did ok. It annoys me how every time somebody suggests that a player should be given time or that we should wait and see about something people automatically come back with "well the same was said about X and it turned out to be true". But Heskey is a completely relevant example. As I said, we are talking about a 29 year old who has played almost exclusively in this division. Which is enough to make a judgement on his ability at this level just as it was with Heskey. Contextualisation would help next time you throw around the "give him time" cliché. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) And there have been plenty of others players who were written off before signing who then did ok. It annoys me how every time somebody suggests that a player should be given time or that we should wait and see about something people automatically come back with "well the same was said about X and it turned out to be true". But Heskey is a completely relevant example. As I said, we are talking about a 29 year old who has played almost exclusively in this division. Which is enough to make a judgement on his ability at this level just as it was with Heskey. Contextualisation would help next time you throw around the "give him time" cliché. Senderos would probably be a lot cheaper though. Heskey's 60k a week wages is part of what made him such a bad signing. Giving players time is a cliche now is it? That just about says it all. Edited June 3, 2014 by Mantis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezvilla Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 All this takeover talk has clearly deluded a lot of fans. The situation we find ourselves in he's most definitely an improvement. Is he better than Vlaar? No. Is he better than Baker? Yes. Is he better than Okore? Possibly. So why not sign a player with plenty of premier league and international experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Different player, different circumstance. Every player deserves the chance to prove himself - if you won't even bother giving him the time of day before he's kicked a ball, then I suppose I just feel sorry for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeps Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 What makes people think he's going to be 4th/5th choice? He started most games for Valencia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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